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| Quote ="Pacific"I know he's only young but he's had some shockers these past few games. Realistically, can anyone see him having a long term future at Leeds?'"
He'd walk into that Wigun side
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| Think Walters is way ahead of Golding if we are having this sort of discussion.
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| Think he will be absolutely fine. Tough time for everyone at the moment. If we get any stability next season ( this one totally written off now ) need a big clear out but I would keep him.
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| Quote ="Pacific"I know he's only young but he's had some shockers these past few games. Realistically, can anyone see him having a long term future at Leeds?'"
He fits in perfectly.
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| For a FB he does drop a few high bombs and he's not the strongest defensively.........anyway that's enough about Sam Tomkins.
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| For this present Leeds team....without a doubt.
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| He has a lot of talent and will be a future Leeds star for many years.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"He has a lot of talent and will be a future Leeds star for many years.'"
.....just maybe not in the game of rugby league
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| Yes definatly, and Walters is not that bad either.
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| he needs to add some size, he gets thrown around like a rag doll, although tahts the case for most of the current leeds team they look smaller and weaker than every other team in the comp at the moment as if none of them have been on the weights all season.
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| He shakes like a sh*tting dog under the high ball, runs sideways a lot, can't break the line and gets dominated in every tackle. I'd give him this season to improve solely because despite all his faults, he's playing way better than the ego of steel.
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| Does it mean much in the worst Leeds team of all time....
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| Absolutely. Future legend.
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| For a young kid playing in a e team just out of full time education he's awful. Why isn't he breaking the line on kick returns when most teams are kicking from well within our half so having a set line? Why isn't he reading the faster paced game better when he's played the majority out of position? I just hope he isn't using his bad luck with injuries as an excuse. I can see why there's no reserve set up anymore because it's easy to tell at this age, after a handful of games, how good someone will be
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| Quote ="rhino phil"he needs to add some size, he gets thrown around like a rag doll'"
I don't think he's got the right frame to add too much bulk, and if you look at the size of backs across SL and NRL these days I'm not sure how far he'll go.
Maybe a future in the halfs, if his hands are good enough?
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| Golding is an attacking rugby player with pace, good hands and awareness as he showed in linking with Lilley for the early Keinhorst try against Huddersfield the other night. He is young and inexperienced but has shown bravery and mental toughness in overcoming mistakes in tough situations and I believe he is a fine prospect for the future.
He does not need to bulk up merely gain experience to improve techniques etc IMO and for those that are so quick to be critical some comparison between the 19 year old and our experienced MOS are in order:
Tackles In his 2 SL games at fullback this year Golding has made an average of 14.5 tackles per game which is double the average number of tackles made by Hardaker at FB this year and AG has averaged more tackles overall per game in SL than ZH.
Missed tackles ZH has a missed tackle average of 17% while AG has only a 7.5 % missed tackle average
Clean breaks In his limited total games this season (5 and a half I think?) he has made the same number of line breaks as Hardaker has made all season ( ZH 12 and a half SL matches I think) so again double the MOS average.
Tackle Busts AG (3,27 per game) is not far behind ZH's (3.92 per game) SL average for tackle busts too.
Average metres per carry AG has a better average than ZH this year so far.
Tries scored AG in 5 and a half matches has scored double the number tries that ZH has achieved in 12.5 matches.
Handling errors AG has a lower average number of errors per game than ZH in SL this season
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| Miles beteer than Zak at the moment, who has no scored a try since last year's semi-final
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| Don't know he is a young kid, but at the moment he needs to be taken out of the first team his confidence appears shot, and every week it gets worse, he needs time to re build his confidence in the under 19's. But if we keep playing him it will destroy him, but this can be said about Sutcliffe
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| Quote ="huddersfield rhino"Don't know he is a young kid, but at the moment he needs to be taken out of the first team his confidence appears shot, and every week it gets worse, he needs time to re build his confidence in the under 19's. But if we keep playing him it will destroy him, but this can be said about Sutcliffe'"
You are talking about Hardaker aren't you? I think he is too old for the under 19s now.
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| Quote ="huddersfield rhino"Don't know he is a young kid, but at the moment he needs to be taken out of the first team his confidence appears shot, and every week it gets worse, he needs time to re build his confidence in the under 19's. But if we keep playing him it will destroy him, but this can be said about Sutcliffe'"
I disagree that his confidence looks shot or that it's getting worst. He did have quite a 'mare against Hudds in the league game but came back ok the next week and thought he was ok vs Cas given the circumstances of having the defence in front of him part like the Red Sea and kickers are having the luxury of time to put in good kicks.
Whilst it can be a possibility I don't necessarily think it's a gimme that a young player could be damaged by this. It much depends on the player in question and if you take Lilley for example, despite our struggles I can imagine his confidence is quite strong at the moment after playing and showing up well in more games than he will have expected to play this year.
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| Just out of interest, which full back does anyone think would have shone defensively for Leeds so far this season? I think Slater and Inglis would be quivering wrecks by now.
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| Not big enough or strong enough for FB or wing.
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| I thought he was rubbish on Thursday, not sure how others were forming their view. Thought he was the foundation of a lot of our problems with his poor positioning for kicks, making the return too slow, and the Cas chasing much easier to pin us down.
Not writing him off, think he is a good kid, but not Thursday.
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| His skill set and physique do look better suited to halfback.
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Quote ="Homer Simpson"Miles beteer than Zak at the moment, who has no scored a try since last year's semi-final'"
Factually incorrect -
www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-7793117
As McDermott says here Leeds would be more competitive if only they'd follow Hardaker's lead.
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Quote ="Homer Simpson"Miles beteer than Zak at the moment, who has no scored a try since last year's semi-final'"
Factually incorrect -
www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-7793117
As McDermott says here Leeds would be more competitive if only they'd follow Hardaker's lead.
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