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| I thought it was about 10 minutes at the time tvoc!
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| Let's hope we didn't bring Burrow back too soon as he took another knock on that shoulder.
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| Quote ="rhinoholic"Let's hope we didn't bring Burrow back too soon as he took another knock on that shoulder.'"
Rob said on Twitter that it was nothing serious and he should be good for Friday.
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| Ablett & Delaney had stand out games today. Clarkson still needs to step-up his game. Peacock should have been rested in my opinion.
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| I don't think the score truly reflected the game, London were bad but we were awful for the 1st 20 minutes and the score only blew out towards the end. Smith looked absolutely nackered in the first half, does he have a different conditioner to everyone else ? It was nice to see us score some quality tries after looking clueless in our last 3 games and it's some reward for the fans who witnessed those displays. Singleton looked OK but I think he could do with a few more kilos on to cause some real damage. Ablett had a stormer and was my MOM by a mile. It was nice to be entertained but against better opposition you can't give them the ball and territory for the first 20 minutes like we did today.
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| Ablett is a better centre than second row. Hall is world class and Burrows scoots from dummy half are helpful. Summary for me.
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"I thought our defence was very good for the most part. London may not be the best opposition but our poor ball control ensured we had plenty of defending to do in our own 20 and we looked solid.
Singleton looked a willing runner and it would good to see him get another chance. Peacock played a long spell and that may have been due to Griffin getting injured early on but it would have been nice if Singleton had played a longer spell. [size=150I thought Smith did ok considering he was playing out of position[/size, especially in the 2nd half. Ablett was excellent and there cannot be many sides who have a better 3rd choice/backup centre.'"
Was he though ? Think somebody on here once rather presciently suggested his ultimate best position would be half back
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| I think Lee Smith only needs to start a Leeds 1st grade game at stand-off now to complete his 1-7 set.
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| Were Ward and Hood not fit for this one ? It beggars belief yet again that Kirke still manages to get a spot in the 17 (and Peacock should def have been given a day off).
Glad to see Singleton get his long overdue chance....just Chisholm now
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| Thought Burrow and Ablett in the first half were the pick of the backs.
Smith was poor in the first half but picked up in the second although not convincing. He seems to have lost his confidence and every time he messed up his head dropped.
Maybe a run at scrum half might help him.
Delaney had a good game and McShane looked good when he came on.
Sinfield made two or three poor decisions and is too slow for SO.
Even Kirke was running it in from the kick off!!
Any news on Griffin who came off after 10 minutes.
Ablett MOM by a mile and Webb for me had his best game.
All the backs played well and they took their tries well.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Was he though ? Think somebody on here once rather presciently suggested his ultimate best position would be half back
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He may have played half before but I cannot remember seeing him their before. He did ok. As someone pointed out he had a hand in a couple of tries in the 1st half also.
Kirke played ok today imo. He gets critisism on here every week. Sometimes it is deserved but at times it is unjustified.
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| Quote ="tvoc"I think Lee Smith only needs to start a Leeds 1st grade game at stand-off now to complete his 1-7 set.'"
He really (hopefully) could become the new Neil Hague
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"He may have played half before but I cannot remember seeing him their before. He did ok. As someone pointed out he had a hand in a couple of tries in the 1st half also.
Kirke played ok today imo. He gets critisism on here every week. Sometimes it is deserved but at times it is unjustified.'"
Maybe so....but was he a better selection than Stevie Ward for example who today could have played LF (with Bailey in reserve on the bench) ?
Others can speak for themselves, but the puzzling thing (to me) is why does he continue to be selected, despite poor or indifferent performances, which is the usual expectation and result ?
If the club was genuinely short of options then it would be more understandable. However we have seen the departure of Lauititi and Amor (temporalily ?) to Wakefield and now Pitts to Hull....all of whom are surely better options. Additionally, look how long Singleton has had to wait to get a spot in the squad owing to Kirke still 'commanding' a place.
Is Kirke a better option than D.Smith ? Ambler ? .....and as already stated in today's match, Stevie Ward ? It continues to defy rational explanation IMHO.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"He really (hopefully) could become the new Neil Hague
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More chance of him becoming William Hague.
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| Griffin got a head knock according to one of the Radio Leeds presenters.
As for not playing Ward, maybe the thinking was 2 games in 4 days was too much for him at this stage? Did the academy play today?
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| Quote ="Glenn Quagmire"Griffin got a head knock according to one of the Radio Leeds presenters.
As for not playing Ward, maybe the thinking was 2 games in 4 days was too much for him at this stage? Did the academy play today?'"
Hmmm....that would of course not be too much for the rest of the 17
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Hmmm....that would of course not be too much for the rest of the 17'"
Were the rest of the squad 17 years old and still at school?
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| Not saying it is definitely the reason but it's plausible.
Hardly ideal to be asking a 17 year old to back up having only just made his debut.
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| Agreed. Especially when he's been in an underperforming team. Shame he missed out on being involved in a big win though. As for Smith, I think it's an excellent idea, and also I think it always helps to have somebody a bit smaller amongst your halfbacks - not necessarily a Burrow, but someone who can be quick on their feet. Playing two loose forward type players at halfback will generally slow things down too much in the middle - or at least remove the sort of threat a classic scrum half should have.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Quote ="The Magic Rat"He may have played half before but I cannot remember seeing him their before. He did ok. As someone pointed out he had a hand in a couple of tries in the 1st half also.
Kirke played ok today imo. He gets critisism on here every week. Sometimes it is deserved but at times it is unjustified.'"
Maybe so....but was he a better selection than Stevie Ward for example who today could have played LF (with Bailey in reserve on the bench) ?
Others can speak for themselves, but the puzzling thing (to me) is why does he continue to be selected, despite poor or indifferent performances, which is the usual expectation and result ?
If the club was genuinely short of options then it would be more understandable. However we have seen the departure of Lauititi and Amor (temporalily ?) to Wakefield and now Pitts to Hull....all of whom are surely better options. Additionally, look how long Singleton has had to wait to get a spot in the squad owing to Kirke still 'commanding' a place.
Is Kirke a better option than D.Smith ? Ambler ? .....and as already stated in today's match, Stevie Ward ? It continues to defy rational explanation IMHO.'"
Kirkes work with the ball is generally fairly limited. however he usually gives a good account for himself in defence. he not only makes a good number of tackles in relatively low minutes but he sldo gets involved as third man and slows the play the ball down.
as to why he's preferred to the various younger options I don't know. I would guess it'd because the coaches are happy with the job he's doing.
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| Quote ="G1"Burrow makes a huge difference and Ablett was immense.
Ryan Hall looked in need of a rest today, didn't he Gotcha? Guffaw.
Deardful 1st 20 mins, dreadful 1st ten mins of the 2nd half. Otherwise, just what the doctor ordered against dreadful opposition. Singleton looked willing in his cameo.'"
It was never a question of need a rest, but deserve a rest. But you knew that anyway, but like to play the Easter knobby.
As someone who's had enougth of Burrow, I thought he was superb yesterday. I am a big fan of Ablett but though Burrow was MOM.
Burrow, Ablet, Sinfield, Webb, and Kylie for me were the standout performers, and a nice cameo from Mcshane.
Hall's finishing was great, especially his last.
Smith was far better than given credit for, not surprising, although not to the level of the ones above.
I once again though our backrow was not good enougth, and you can add the loose to that this week.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"
I once again though our backrow was not good enougth, and you can add the loose to that this week.'"
But which one? We noted Bailey, Smith, Webb and Sinfield packing down there at various points in the game.
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| Quote ="gulfcoast_highwayman"But which one? We noted Bailey, Smith, Webb and Sinfield packing down there at various points in the game.'"
pedant. The one on the team sheet then.
I also forgot to add above, that personally I though Kirke had a decent game.
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| I thought Lee Smith had a decent game. Hung around and played some nice balls.
Was a poor game.
London with their early 10 minute hounding of us needed points on the board. Didn't happen. They moved the ball quite nicely, but there was no end product. They missed a few line-breakers and off-loaders to generate a second phase.
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