A rare mistake from a proven class winger, it’s a little unfair to compare Hall to Donald – the comparison I’m interested with is Hall and Smith.

The "better" option was already playing FB due to Webb's omission.


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No, Smith has seniority over Hall and has been quietly going about nailing down the troublesome wing squad place with some solid displays recently, i am in complete agreement with you over his mentality but he has put in some very workmanlike stints in the past few weeks and should be rewarded with the wing spot for the semi due to his hard graft NOT because of Halls misdemeanors.

Yes

As previously mentioned – not just the Catalan game…

There were also all sorts of rumours about Smith's mindset for other games when he had personal issues. I've no idea whether it was an issue , but maybe, just maybe, McClennan thought it was better not to put more pressure on him.
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Just for the record I'm sure most of you have been involved in threads on the following...

Burrow has had ample chance to shine, perhaps it's time we accepted he
won't make it.

JJB, perhaps we have to accept he will not make it...

Nick Scruton, perhaps we will have to accept he won't make it..

Matt Diskin, perhaps we have to accept he will never find his form again..

Keith Senior, perhaps it's time we accepted that he is old and past it...

Ryan Bailey, perhaps we have to accept that he is never going to cut it...

Lee Smith , perhaps it's time we accepted he is not going to make it.

Scott Donald, ginger chancer...

Kylie Leuluai, what the f++k were they thinking, useless fat waste of a shirt..

Ian Kirke, perhaps we have to accept he won't make it.

Ashley Gibson....

Clinton Toopi....



Seems to me that certain posters are on players backs far to quickly.I think I'll just sit back and watch what happens with this one.

There maybe several reasons as to why Hall was played in front of Smith but both now seem available and fit.

From this point forward (presuming both stay available and fit) my first choice would have to be Smith.

It is becoming extremely obvious that I seem to be the only one harbouring these views towards Hall so maybe I should keep then to myself.

Maybe not the only one harbouring these views but IMO making incorrect calls about the use of Hall in big matches, there wasn't necessarily the options.

If Hall is handled right he can go on to be a very good player but this mainly needs to be reserves/ matches against poorer teams for the next year.

Look at how other winges improved their game, Gardner, Calderwood, Smith. Hall has the potential to be better than any of these if he works on his weaknesses and the coaching staff andsenior players (eg Donald, Senior and Toopi) work with him. Don't write him off yet but the hard work has to come from him.
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Hall shows promise then certain games he becomes a bag of nerves. TBH this season there isnt too much to choose between him & Smith. Smith does seem to apply himself more, when he makes mistakes seems to take it on chin & get on with it, try to put it right next time.

I think some of you need to grow up a bit. Hall bagged us two tries thats pretty good in my opinion, Yes he made a error. SO WHAT!!! i have seen dropped balls and other amateur mistakes from donald webb senior mcguire and so on this season but we never want to drop them do we? Hall is a good player and looks more proffesional every week i see him. Give the guy a break

No..I would agree on balance ATM Smith would just edge it for me as well all things being equal.

I just disagree that a couple of mistakes dont necessarily mean he will not improve or become the better winger in time.

Its not making mistakes that is the problem it is what you do about it that matters.

One of the best wingers to pull on a Leeds shirt... J Atkinson was still prone to making huge errors even at his peak.

Most sensible post of the day so far

I think there is something in a quality wingers make up, a genetic flaw if you will, that makes them have brainfarts every now and then. I don't claim to have the best memory for these things, but from recent years..

Carney
Dallas
Albert
Bai
Best
Vainikolo
Calderwood
Raynor

Or a bit further back..

Sullivan
Chariots
Deveraux
Singe

I can think of several occasions where all these have made silly blunders. I can also think of many occasions where they have stunned me going forwards.

Thats usually cos they are loose forwards with their brains kicked out.



Seriously though it is one of ..if not the most... exposed and isolated positions on the field and the pressure can be immense on a young player.

Nail, head, hit.

Along with full back one of the most difficult positions to play in terms of the mental demands and decision making.

Anyone see Penny or Riley on Saturday?

Twas some bad uns.

I feel its unfair to lay total blame on Penny for the one where he & Hicks went for same ball.

i don't really see where anyones slagging hall off or saying he won't make it.

No you are right but how easy would it have been for either of them to shout for the ball? 50/50 in the blame game.

Where's Darren Rogers. How soon we forget.

No-one stunned me more. Stunned that he had a scoring record as good as his.

Darren Rogers...

Can't be bothered reading the whole thread but my opinion is that at times he badly switches off and at the moment this is being highlighted by other sides scoring points off the back of his errors.

However he's young and has plenty of time to improve but as it stands he is some way off Lee Smith who I think at this current time offers much more.

He lacks a yard of pace for mine but as I posted earlier it's a little premature to be writing off a 20 year old.