A few notable achievements on Saturday (including of course the big one)

Changes in Bold, don't think I've missed any but can't remember if Smith scored a try in '07 and '08 (and too tired to check right now!)



JP's 6 wins is a phenomenal achievement!

Smith joins McGuire with 4 GF tries too,

And Saints go up to 7 appearances on their own.

And we move up to 6 appearances.

Didn't Sky say only Burgess and Eastmond had no grand final experience?

What about Puletua or did he play in a NRL Grand Final?

Didn't I read somewhere that Puletua was looking to join the "Northern and Southern GF Winners" club

Yup

Puletua made his debut for the Penrith Panthers in 1997 and was captain of the team from January, 2006. He is a member of the Panthers team which defeated the Sydney Roosters to win the 2003 Grand final.

Thanks for that, Ian Proctor rules.

Just updating the GF winners and losers list. Can you tell.

we have now 7 championship /grand final wins ,which looks a bit more creditable for a club of leeds standing .
how do we stand now in the list of title wins ?and i dont just mean super league i mean right back to 1895

1 - Wigan 19
2 - St Helens 12
3 - Bradford 10
=4 - Huddersfield 7
=4 - Leeds 7
=6 - Hull 6
=6 - Salford 6
=6 - Swinton 6
9 - Hull KR 5
=10 - Halifax 4
=10 - Oldham 4

Surely that list is not a valid comparison.

I wonder what is the respective list for the SL era only ?????

cheers tvoc

To complete the list of Championship winners for the curious:

=12 - Warrington 3
=12 - Widnes 3
=14 - Dewsbury 2
=14 - Hunslet 2
=14 - Leigh 2
=14 - Wakefield 2
=18 - Batley 1
=18 - Broughton R 1
=18 - Featherstone 1
=18 - Manningham
=18 - Workington

That list, and the company Leeds were beneath and just above, should remind everyone just what a golden period these last 6 seasons and 4 championships have been.

we should cherish every minute of it.

long may they continue!

A long period of Wiganesque dominance. Turn the SL into an ovoid SPL? No thanks.

so if we win it again next season you wont be celebrating?

Its' very easy for an out of townie bandwagon glory hunter to take such a dispassionate view and put the good of the game ahead of success for the Rhinos.

Personally, I'd like things to carry on as they are for a whee while longer. This club, and its' devoted fans, deserve a little longer in the sun.

he does have a very good point, as much as i'd like leeds to carry on winning (and can't really see anything other then us being there next year). it could well be the death of the sport (well destroy the little bit of general public interest in the sport), if the other clubs don't get their acts together

Not Leeds' problem (they already underspend the cap and routinely fail miserably in the Challenge Cup.)

It's up to the rest really and it's hardly a chasm.

Death of the sport seems a little over dramatic.

Whilst ever Leeds and St Helens, the two clubs who show real devotion to junior development, are the pinnacle of the sport we can only hope the rest of the clubs catch on and do likewise. Then the game will be really healthy.

granted maybe a little dramatic, but if its leeds & saints again for the next few years (or even just leeds) the general public & fans of the other clubs are going to get bored pretty quickly. There was enough moaning when it was the big 4/5, atm its down to the big 2, which is not a healthy position for a sport to be in. For rugby league to move forward in this country, we really need it to be the big 10/12 if not even the big 14. Which we then should be able to build a credible international team off the back of

The only ones who should be worrying about the death of the sport are those who cant get near Leeds and Saints. It's up to them to catch up as they've already had a leg up.

I believe that the current overall downturn in supporter attendance can be directly attributed to the current economic climate and nothing to do with the 2 team dominance that we are currently seeing.

I’m with Gareth and Danny on this one – the sport is strong enough to sustain a period of 1 or 2 club dominance and while we’re at the top long let it stay that way.

It won’t last that long – as the saying goes “when you’re at the top there’s only one way you can go” and it is just a matter of time before Leeds and Saints do a Bradford (but God forbid not as drastically) and slip to mediocrity.

But while the sun shines let us sunbath.

Spot on.

Anyway, looking at the table of championships I'd like at least 6 more before our golden era is done



(I can live with being second to Wigan the impact of their own golden era is going to take decades to wipe out)

Not all of them have benevolent millionaires and well qualified financial personnel, good fan bases and marketable brands to help them develop the necessary infrastructure to begin to grow.

The leg up's are going to have to continue for a while yet before you see other clubs repreating what Leeds and Saints have done.

It's all very well picking on "Out of Townie, glory hunting bandwagonners" but the truth remains the same. Once supporters get their heads around the idea that a visit from Leeds and Saints is 1) More likely to be on Sky and 2) Is going to result in a kicking, then I should imagine they shall make the sensible decision given the current economic climate that for a family of four the £60 plus sundries is best spent elsewhere. You don't need many £60's to represent a lot of lost revenue for the clubs in involved.

It's nice to see Leeds doing well. And unlike some of the more regular posters on here I have done my apprenticeship of supporting a dour Leeds team in the rain and snow on the wrong side of the Pennines. I have done my time watching sodden Alliance matches. What I can also remember thinking is why the hell was I doing it when all the available silverware with the exception of the Yorkshire cup was all going one way? And even then Leeds seemed determined to let Cas and Fax have that too.

You may feel that that's just tough titties on the opposition fans, but whilst you're bathing in your reflected glory it makes it harder for those of us trying to get new blood into the game. There is already a feeling that unless you play for the "big 4" you're never going to win anything. So there is no incentive for local players to play for their local clubs. They all want to leave and go and play elsewhere. So it makes it hard to keep them in academies long enough to make first grade.