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| Latest forecast
Its still Toronto -v- London for the MPG after this weekends results
Predicted Final Standings
14 Salford Win - Toulouse (H), Leeds (A), London (A)
12 Hull KR Win - London (H), Widnes (H), Toulouse (A)
10 Leeds Win - Toronto (H) Halifax (A) - Loss to Salford (H)
8 Toronto Win - Widnes (H), Toulouse (H) - Loss to Leeds (A)
6 London Win - Halifax (H), - Loss HKR (A) Salford (H)
4 Toulouse Win - none - Loss - (HKR (H), Toronto (A), Salford (A)
2 Widnes Win - Halifax (H) - Loss HKR (A), Toronto (A),
0 Halifax Win - none - Loss - Leeds (H), London (A), Widnes (A)
Or if we lose to Toronto, its Rhino's -v- London @ Headingley.
We need to beat Salford next week to make sure we don't need the Toronto game
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| The win today should release a lot of pressure. Of the 3 games left 2 are against championship teams so as long as we don't clam up too much we should beat them both and be home.
There is a huge amount of work to do in the close season to "rescue" any of these players. Only the kids could be turned around in my opinion as they will be able to recover from the mental horror that this season has been. We need to be looking to move many players on in the close season, it will be interesting to see who we can get from this country or that Furner can bring with him. We need 8-10 players over the next 2 years, as well as any promising kids coming through.
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| Surely we must have one decent performance in us before the end of season . Come on beat Salford effort ,go forward . Come on Leeds
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| I sound mad here but I fancy us to beat Salford... if Hastings out I just fancy us to beat them. A lot of pressure will have been released after today's win
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| We'll win. Leeds by 18
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| Quote ="Bang"We'll win. Leeds by 18'"
Let's do this.
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| It shows how poor we are as a side at present when we're actually thinking that we can actually beat Salford at home because Jackson Hastings could be possibly suspended
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| Quote ="Trebor1"I sound mad here but I fancy us to beat Salford... if Hastings out I just fancy us to beat them. A lot of pressure will have been released after today's win'"
I think (hope) that this win may just take a bit of pressure of them as they looked nervous as hell today. Our defence was a bit better than last week but our attack was pretty much none existent, hopefully we can put the two together next week.
Hastings should get a ban and I’m much more confident in playing them without him in a he side, Burgess should miss a few aswell.
Our points difference is in good shape aswell so tvat could help. I really hope we have it wrapped up before the torrinto game as I really want to go to one home game this year and actually enjoy it, they owe me (us sll) that!
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| Quote ="The Chin's Back"It shows how poor we are as a side at present when we're actually thinking that we can actually beat Salford at home because Jackson Hastings could be possibly suspended
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Don’t forget both Catalans and Warrington were in a similar (catalans worse!) position last year and they have turned it around with minimal player changes, I believe we can do the same as we aren’t going to get 5 new players in the off season
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| Quote ="The Chin's Back"It shows how poor we are as a side at present when we're actually thinking that we can actually beat Salford at home because Jackson Hastings could be possibly suspended
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Indeed, it is shocking state of affairs that last years champions are scrabbling to retain our SL status. For me it shows how thin our squad actally is. In retrospect, it would have required us to go virtually injury free for most of the season to have been competative and let's be honest, that was never going to happen. The board of directors were asleep at the wheel this season. Or more likely complacent after last year and focused on the new stadium development.
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| Quote ="christopher"Don’t forget both Catalans and Warrington were in a similar (catalans worse!) position last year and they have turned it around with minimal player changes, I believe we can do the same as we aren’t going to get 5 new players in the off season'"
Catalans added four in the off season didn’t they? And added two season changing signings, more importantly, through this season.
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| Quote ="christopher"Don’t forget both Catalans and Warrington were in a similar (catalans worse!) position last year and they have turned it around with minimal player changes, I believe we can do the same as we aren’t going to get 5 new players in the off season'"
I was just referring to being confident about beating Salford at home!
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| I still think we are better than this ,it doesn't make us good ,but we are due a decent performance .I think leeds will win 32 16
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| Quote ="christopher"Don’t forget both Catalans and Warrington were in a similar (catalans worse!) position last year and they have turned it around with minimal player changes, I believe we can do the same as we aren’t going to get 5 new players in the off season'"
We’ve already announced 2 new signings. 3 more is certainly feasible.
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"I still think we are better than this ,it doesn't make us good ,but we are due a decent performance .I think leeds will win 32 16'"
I think Salford are over rated. I think Hull KR are better.
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| Quote ="The Chin's Back"It shows how poor we are as a side at present when we're actually thinking that we can actually beat Salford at home because Jackson Hastings could be possibly suspended
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Indeed but that's the reality we have to deal with at present. The reasons behind this are many but we are where we are at present so let's get behind the team and help the club rebuild
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"www.skysports.com/rugby-league/hull-k-r-vs-salford/49780'"
Yeah they did beat us in the qualifiers but three weeks earlier we put 50 on them we just didn’t turn up that night
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| Salford have only conceded 36 points in 4 games, Leeds have let in nearly 100. We need big improvement in both defence and attack to win. Hopefully Ward and Cuthbo will be back and Hastings misses out. Praying for a win and salvation in this scrubbers scramble.
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| According to Peter Smith Cuthbertson was dropped. If so that would speak volumes about his contribution when it matters and how utterly crazy it was to give him two more years.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"According to Peter Smith Cuthbertson was dropped. If so that would speak volumes about his contribution when it matters and how utterly crazy it was to give him two more years.'"
No, if true, yesterdays match showed how silly it was to drop him. Fair enough if you have the replacements to do it, but we don't, and we struggled as a result.
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| We struggled because Cuthbertson wasn't playing? Isn't it more a case of we struggled because we're generally rubbish, just as in most games this season, with or without him?
He was dropped for the most important match of the year bar none. That speaks volumes for what Sinfield and Lowes think of his contributions since they've taken over. He's our most experienced prop by far, and the player we ought to be able to look to for on-field leadership - hard runs and leading the way in defence. The reality is he provides no leadership by example in the tough stuff. Having a beard doesn't actually make a prop IMO. And yes, I think assuming a 35-year old will somehow be good when he isn't much cop at 33 is crazy.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"We struggled because Cuthbertson wasn't playing? Isn't it more a case of we struggled because we're generally rubbish, just as in most games this season, with or without him?
He was dropped for the most important match of the year bar none. That speaks volumes for what Sinfield and Lowes think of his contributions since they've taken over. He's our most experienced prop by far, and the player we ought to be able to look to for on-field leadership - hard runs and leading the way in defence. The reality is he provides no leadership by example in the tough stuff. Having a beard doesn't actually make a prop IMO. And yes, I think assuming a 35-year old will somehow be good when he isn't much cop at 33 is crazy.'"
I think you are very much missing the point with this agenda you seem to have against the player.
I repeat what I posted whilst at the match yesterday. We had an awful lot of territory at the game, but at no point did we actually look like scoring. We badly missed his attacking threat in that regard. We do not have have the replacemetns to come in and fill that role, and as a result we struglled. Yesterday could have very easily have been a loss, and that my friend would have been a direct result of not having that attacking threat.
His replacment ysterday was Thomson. He missed 9 tackles in that game, which is 20% of what Cuthbertson has missed the entire season. His metres per carry were a yard less than what Cuthbertson has averaged the entire season. You see where I am going with this?
Now, all the things you say could well be true, and at the same time can very much be put at the door of plenty of other players also, but if you do not have a replacement who can give you what the player does, then for me it is stupid to drop. His perfomrances also are absolutely nowhere near as bad as you are making out in anycase, not when in comparison to others. But does that make his two year deal worthwhile or justified? no it doesn't but that is for a later date, not right now.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"We struggled because Cuthbertson wasn't playing? Isn't it more a case of we struggled because we're generally rubbish, just as in most games this season, with or without him?
He was dropped for the most important match of the year bar none. That speaks volumes for what Sinfield and Lowes think of his contributions since they've taken over. He's our most experienced prop by far, and the player we ought to be able to look to for on-field leadership - hard runs and leading the way in defence. The reality is he provides no leadership by example in the tough stuff. Having a beard doesn't actually make a prop IMO. And yes, I think assuming a 35-year old will somehow be good when he isn't much cop at 33 is crazy.'"
He was left out, but he is also playing injured and has been for a while, and we won so the decision has been proven correct.
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| Adam Cuthbertson, has been struggling with a hamstring injury. That's what Sir kev said early last week. He was also ill during the week. No excuse for not playing well this year though
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