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| Quote ="ThePrinter"A few weeks ago Sinfield, Watkins and Hardaker went down to Eton Uni for the day to give speeches, didn't stop them winning against Castleford.'"
Perhaps they should have dyed their hair for their Eton speeches. I'm sure the lads there would've picked up on their professionalism had they done so.
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Oooppps, my apologies, Player scrapes barrell in trying to defend himself shocker. Seriously? would you really have expected any less to be said?
It's so cute.
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Oooppps, my apologies, Player scrapes barrell in trying to defend himself shocker. Seriously? would you really have expected any less to be said?
It's so cute.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Oooppps, my apologies, Player scrapes barrell in trying to defend himself shocker. Seriously? would you really have expected any less to be said?
It's so cute.'"
Keyboard warrior finding it easy to criticise a player over the Internet shocker!
Keyboard warrior getting all tongue tied and needing a fresh pair of pants if he ever came face to face with Jamie Peacock......now that would be cute.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Keyboard warrior finding it easy to criticise a player over the Internet shocker!
Keyboard warrior getting all tongue tied and needing a fresh pair of pants if he ever came face to face with Jamie Peacock......now that would be cute.'"
Bless.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Oooppps, my apologies, Player scrapes barrell in trying to defend himself shocker. Seriously? would you really have expected any less to be said?
It's so cute.'"
Gotcha, in the video link JP is asked if there was any disruption whatsoever to their preparation as a result of the hair colouring. he answers categorically no.
As you have alleged there must have been are you suggesting JP is a liar?
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| Good thread this. We've been humped at Saints with normal hair, to attribute this humping to hair dye seems a bit strange.
To be honest, I was concerned about a wounded Saints with their Messiah as coach seeking vengeance for another GF defeat, before I even thought about pink hair. We got our defensive line all wrong, were off the pace and got blown away in the first half an hour. Unless we believe that mis-communication in the defensive line is causally linked to hair colour, that isn't the problem. Bad day at the office, against a dangerous side with a point to prove. I see no need for more explanation than that.
Presumably at least people who think the haircuts were the problem will be happy that it will be easy to correct for next week? No need to spend time working on your defensive patterns when you can just shave your pink hair off eh?
Also worth noting that I've seen Danny Brough and Sean Long produce a few match-winning displays with far worse hair than that.
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| Are you for real?
Please feel free to share any proof you have that backs your stance and shows the club ,players and coach to be lying!!
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| In terms of points difference the worst defeat of Coach McDermott's Leeds reign. The worst Leeds margin of defeat since a 56-10 reversal at Knowsley Road in 2004 under Tony Smith. The =8th worst Leeds points reversal of the SL Era.
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If that performance yesterday had been in aid of 'comic relief' rather than 'sport relief' it might have been easier to understand.
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| Quote ="G1"As you have alleged there must have been are you suggesting JP is a liar?'"
I am suggesting that JP will have said anything but that it was part of the issue. Who in their right mind is going to say they shouldn't have done it after making such a publicity about it?
I've spent about an hour on the internet on here today when I should be working. Do you seriously expect me to tell my boss that?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I am suggesting that JP will have said anything but that it was part of the issue. Who in their right mind is going to say they shouldn't have done it after making such a publicity about it?
I've spent about an hour on the internet on here today when I should be working. Do you seriously expect me to tell my boss that?'"
Man who spends an hour on the internet when he should be working accuses rugby team of wrong attitude for doing something charity related.
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| Quote Their preparations were not as they should have been, and IMO that was down to taking time out of their preparations for silly pish takes'"
Unlike our respective bosses who don't know we're wasting their money on here do you not think McDermott might have noticed if his whole squad sneaked out of training an hour early to go to the barbers?
You said they took time out of their preparations. Peacock says they didn't. I see no reason to think he's being anything but honest.
I don't think Peacock is trying to mislead his boss. Sounds like his boss is in full agreement.
“For Stevo to say we were completely unprofessional, though, for dying our hair, that is bang out of order."
[urlhttp://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/st-helens-46-leeds-rhinos-6-red-faced-rhinos-stunned-by-saints-triumph-1-4385519[/url
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| Quote ="G1"“For Stevo to say we were completely unprofessional, though, for dying our hair, that is bang out of order."
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Unprofessional no.
Ridiculous?
Most certainly.
I thought it was in aid of Comic Relief rather than Sport Relief.
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| I think the possibility and more likely scenario that they got it done AFTER training hasn't entered a few peoples heads. Rugby players don't spend every single hour of the week in training, they do have free time you know.
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| Maybe this could be a project for one of our universities. "The effect of hair colourant on performance levels in Superleague".
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Maybe this could be a project for one of our universities. "The effect of hair colourant on performance levels in Superleague".'"
No doubt Phil Clarke will have some stats on the matter.
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| If you turn up as half d as we did last night, with your hair pink, people will naturally point to that as a reason. The players must have known that. I won't criticize them, because it's a great cause and at the end of the day who cares. It's just if you do go for that look, you put yourself up there to be shot at.
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| Leeds SL Era : By losing margin
-54, 1996 - Wigan (Central Park)
-46, 1996 - Bradford (Odsal)
-46, 2004 - St Helens (Knowsley Road)
-44, 1999 - St Helens (Knowsley Road)
-44, 2001 - Bradford (Valley Parade)
-42, 1998 - Halifax (The New Shay) Also the only SL Era game Leeds were nilled
-42, 2000 - Bradford (Headingley)
-40, 1996 - Halifax (Thrum Hall)
-40, 2012 - St Helens (Langtree Park)
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| Quote ="tvoc"Leeds SL Era : By losing margin
-54, 1996 - Wigan (Central Park)
-46, 1996 - Bradford (Odsal)
-46, 2004 - St Helens (Knowsley Road)
-44, 1999 - St Helens (Knowsley Road)
'" Whilst the '96 team is a well-known disaster area, I can only assume from their shameful results at St Helens that the 2004 and 1999 bunch were fairly crappy too.
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| Leeds were clearly off the pace for whatever reason. The hair styles may have had only a minor impact, but IMO BM, Peacock and co are protesting a bit too much - they know Leeds were off in attitude as much as anything else. Had Leeds turned up with the WCC attitude Sts would have struggled to score many points at all.
The lesson for everyone is fairly clear - if you do turn up looking silly, make sure you win. I suspect that despite JP and BM's protestations, Leed won't be doing the same next year.
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| Quote ="MjM"Whilst the '96 team is a well-known disaster area, I can only assume from their shameful results at St Helens that the 2004 and 1999 bunch were fairly crappy too.'"
<excuse mode on> The '99 game at Knowsley Road came three days after the Challenge Cup Final victory over London at the old Wembley stadium. <excuse mode off>
I'd like to say Leeds sent a second string side but they didn't. Barring putting Harris on the bench (and not using him) the side looked very respectable on paper. I think they'd have been better sending a second string instead.
In 2004 again it was a respectable looking side on paper - only really Burrow at hooker in place of Diskin out of the ordinary. It's the game Tony Smith always referred back to during his Headingley days after Leeds had flat-tracked bullied some hapless opponent or other with his trademark 'that's happened to us' and 'once you lose momentum it's difficult to get it back' type comment so it came in handy.
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| What about our hair do's? What did they all do ?
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| Quote ="tvoc"<excuse mode on> The '99 game at Knowsley Road came three days after the Challenge Cup Final victory over London at the old Wembley stadium. <excuse mode off>
I'd like to say Leeds sent a second string side but they didn't. Barring putting Harris on the bench (and not using him) the side looked very respectable on paper. I think they'd have been better sending a second string instead.'" Oh yeah I remember that now Didn't we play Wakey at home in the rain three days later? Tough week.
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| That's right. Powell, Lawford, McDermott, Jones-Buchanan and Ward were the players rotated in for Sinfield, Mathiou, Glanville, Harris and Masella as Leeds got away with a 22-8 result after trailing 2-8 at the break. Settled for that.
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| like every single person has already said they looked like a bunch of t**ts, did that cost you the game? IMO no
you were be a against a team with a new coaching team that really had each and everyone of the players fired up for the game.
the fact we you were first up against The RUSH era you had no idea what we were going to come with, inside runners, support play, a real want in defance, some of ehich we have not seen for a good couple of years at saints so you were going into the game blind
mix that with the fact that you guys had a bad day in the office which happens and this has been showen in the league over the last few years with big score lines, a team playing at 100% against a team not quite on it and bang, people want answers even more so from a champion side like leeds, and the easy thing to pick is pink hair - so thats why you lost
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On a different point, the worst bit of the commentary was their implied belittling of our Grand Final win - if Shenton/Wellens had stayed on would Saints have won? Nonsensical and disrespectful.'"
Eddie and steveo do talk some s**t, with that said i believe with shenton and wellens on the pitch we win the game / the league, but you still had to win the game see where we were weak and do it, im not happy with the result but i dont begruge you the win......and nor should the main 'stars' of the sky commentary team very disrespectful, but they did the same thing thing friday night with the scum and wire calling the game the grand final that never was .... yeah NEVER was because they werent good enough
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