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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Sorry, Doh, yes, I got it in my mind for some odd reason he got a Red... he didn't. The appearance before the committee was for his post match comments.
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| IMO we're not dirty enough.
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| Quote ="Hacked Off"Your text here implies that the raised knee committed by Bailey was somehow worse than the other two.
Or: If the raised knee commited by O'loughlin and Fielden were as bad as the one committed by Bailey those two would have been rightly banned and you wouldnt have complained. However as they were not as bad as the one committed by Bailey they recieved a warning only. As Baileys was worse he should be banned.
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Or his text could be taken the other way that he meant if they were the same ie as bad not worse!!
Plus when as Sean O’Loughlin been charged with it??
Quote ="tvoc"I'm only interested to see how many games brother Joel gets for his unwarranted intervention that could have caused a mass brawl, just as we saw last Thursday at the Shay in similar circumstances.
If anything brother Joel did Leeds a favour on the night by creating a distraction and one which allowed his younger brother to demonstrate just how badly shook up he was (by the Ablett challenge) by attempting to join in.'"
Quite possibly the same as JJB gets for running in! Which is the same as Tansey a few week ago! Nowt!
Your right Tomkins should have done a McGuire and stayed down!!
In reply to the OP. No every team needs to have players that are physical and intimidating! Its the game! Sometimes these incidents occure because the game is physical and if they are punished correctly then that is fine! Its the deliberate attempts to injure players but these are very few and far between!!
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| Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"Or his text could be taken the other way that he meant if they were the same ie as bad not worse!!
Plus when as Sean O’Loughlin been charged with it??
Quite possibly the same as JJB gets for running in! Which is the same as Tansey a few week ago! Nowt!
Your right Tomkins should have done a McGuire and stayed down!!
In reply to the OP. No every team needs to have players that are physical and intimidating! Its the game! Sometimes these incidents occure because the game is physical and if they are punished correctly then that is fine! Its the deliberate attempts to injure players but these are very few and far between!!'"
Oooh..get her!
Yes you are right about the deliberate attempts though. Thankfully we have not seen a deliberate attempt for a while now and that includes Friday night.
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| Quote ="Hacked Off"Oooh..get her!
Yes you are right about the deliberate attempts though. Thankfully we have not seen a deliberate attempt for a while now and that includes Friday night.'"
Correct!! Ablett was reckless/careless not deliberate still doesnt excuse Ganson not showing a red after being told it was contact with the arm to the head!!
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| Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"Correct!! Ablett was reckless/careless not deliberate still doesnt excuse Ganson not showing a red after being told it was contact with the arm to the head!!'"
It was, in the eye of the people that count, the review panel, a RECKLESS tackle as it was grade c offence. It was not Careless/Reckless... that does not exist as an offence!
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| Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"Correct!! Ablett was reckless/careless not deliberate still doesnt excuse Ganson not showing a red after being told it was contact with the arm to the head!!'"
Told by Whom?
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| Quote ="rhinobucs"That's right O'Loughlin got off after taking Luke Robinson's head off.'"
Was that just before Robinson winked at O'Loughlin?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Told by Whom?'"
The wigan fannys behind the sticks who were all frothing at the gash at the time
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| Call me oldfashioned but im with G1 on this. I like us to be dirty and a little bit more for me.
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| I liked it better when all the other teams complained to the RFL about us being too rough for them.
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| Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet" Its the deliberate attempts to injure players but these are very few and far between!!'"
You mean like young Tomkins recent attack on Cunninghams legs whilst he is held in the tackle.....
A Wigan player tried the exactly the same thing on Friday night on JJB.
Dirty barstewards
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| Quote ="MDW12"If anything kicked off, the mass brawl would have been a direct result of Ablett's forearm to the face. Joel Tomkins and the others who got involved may have been in the wrong'"
Anyone who saw the end of Halifax - Widnes game at the Shay on Thursday will understand the point.
Fortunately the full-time professional players were somewhat more restrained in their actions than the semi-pro bretheren. Had it kicked off in a similar fashion the initial challenge would have paled by comparison.
There is no place in SL for players taking the law into their own hands.
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| not quiet sure what G1 means but we do need more fair aggression in the collision a bit more umph.
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| Quote ="G1"IMO we're not dirty enough.'"
I agree. When Joelene went unnecessarily wading in, our pack should have sorted matters instead of the football-esque pushing and shoving which ensued.
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| Leeds really missed Ian Kirke on Friday.
Wigan wouldn't have dared start anything if he'd have been out there, not even Deacon.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Told by Whom?'"
Phil Bentham?
Quote ="DoubleAone"Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet" Its the deliberate attempts to injure players but these are very few and far between!!'"
You mean like young Tomkins recent attack on Cunninghams legs whilst he is held in the tackle.....
A Wigan player tried the exactly the same thing on Friday night on JJB.
Dirty barstewards
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| Quote ="G1"IMO we're not dirty enough.'"
Totally agree.
Further to this, dirty doesn't just mean penalties and daft going-on.
It's about getting your hands dirty in the tackle.
It's an area we have not made the most of this year. Far too soft in the tackle.
No velocity at all in this area. We need to re-ignite the killer instinct.
If a player slips and falls - smash 'em. Not just nicely fall on them so they are tackled. Let's give teams some grief again.
I'm hoping this is an area we will crank up starting this week.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"We have had five players appear before the disciplinary this year, Senior twice. Of these five appearances we have only had one suspension and that was Brent Webb. One of Seniors was for his Red card at the WCC, so in regular UK season, it is really only four appearances.
In light of current discussion that is quite good in comparison to say.... Wigan!'"
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Call me oldfashioned but im with G1 on this. I like us to be dirty and a little bit more for me.'"
Do you have a glass coffee table?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Told by Whom?'"
The video referee. Andy Coley's red card against Catalans came after James Child recieved advice from the video ref of the severity of the challenge. Ganson recieved advice on Friday yet decided to ignore it and place the incident on report instead
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| yes , you are a dirty team you have gone from being a very entertaining team to a team of thugs,and i don't know why when you look at the talent in the team.
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| IMO your not a dirty team you may have a few players who are right on the edge of physical/dirty as do most teams but you play top class rugby. Dirty team no, hard physical team yes.
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| We are not dirty just RECKLESS
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