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| Quote ="bewildered"I potential future England back line, but where will we play Reed?
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Hardaker to stand off, Reed to centre - it's a no brainer
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| Wouldn't be unhappy with either reed or briscoe but don't think it will happen TBH
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| Hope for Reed or Briscoe, probably end up with Raynor or Reardon
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| I'd rather see Chisolm given a chance first. He's raw but with a bit of hard work could become a class SL winger.
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| Quote ="Loyal Leeds Fan"Hardaker to stand off, Reed to centre - it's a no brainer
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never actually thought of that. I'd love the next step for leeds to be that of having a full british squad. Webb and Kylie are due out at the end of 2012 (replaced by BJB at FB and potentially Singleton at prop or maybe Burgess at Bulls), then Delany is due out at end of 2013? and Weller in 2014.
Is that our next milestone? We've done three on the bounce, we've won from 5th now lets do a full season and win a GF with a british team. i would absolutely love that
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Hope for Reed or Briscoe, probably end up with Raynor or Reardon'"
I agree with you but if GH can't sign someone who "can make a difference" there will be no signings. As both Reed and Briscoe are under contract there are obstacles to overcome in signing either of them but you never know. Have faith in "the sleeve"!. Which one would make most difference tothe team?
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| Quote ="rhino2009"I agree with you but if GH can't sign someone who "can make a difference" there will be no signings. As both Reed and Briscoe are under contract there are obstacles to overcome in signing either of them but you never know. Have faith in "the sleeve"!. Which one would make most difference tothe team?'"
Good question. Don't think personally either will be signed by us this season coming. Reed obviously has got a good partnership with hall which is a plus, but we have watkins and hardaker in the positions at the moment. Briscoe could go on the wing and allow BJB to slot into full back. As said before though don't think either are anything but gossip and rummors at this stage
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Hull winger Tom Briscoe will be offered a new contract at Hull to stave off interest from the NRL after his performances in the tournament.
A number of Australian sides, as well as Super League rivals, are eyeing the 21-year-old, whose current deal expires in 2013.
www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... amara.html
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Hull winger Tom Briscoe will be offered a new contract at Hull to stave off interest from the NRL after his performances in the tournament.
A number of Australian sides, as well as Super League rivals, are eyeing the 21-year-old, whose current deal expires in 2013.
www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... amara.html
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Good question. Don't think personally either will be signed by us this season coming. Reed obviously has got a good partnership with hall which is a plus, but we have watkins and hardaker in the positions at the moment. Briscoe could go on the wing and allow BJB to slot into full back. As said before though don't think either are anything but gossip and rummors at this stage'"
It possibly is only an unfounded rumour regarding Briscoe but Shaun McRae seemed very concerned that clubs were interested and Hull might lose him. Also on the Hull FC board their supporters seem somewhat resigned to him leaving. The test will come when McRae offers Briscoe a new contract after the 4 Nations and if it is turned down. Do they hold on or put him on the transfer list. All good speculation !
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| The Rhinos website said Gary H has had a full itinerary on his visits to Australia and New Zealand. Do you think he's managed to persuade a "special" player to come and play for us next year?
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| Quote ="rhino2009"The Rhinos website said Gary H has had a full itinerary on his visits to Australia and New Zealand. Do you think he's managed to persuade a "special" player to come and play for us next year?'"
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| GH's recent article suggested that if he signs anyone from Aus/NZ it will be a young player rather than a big name (mentioned something about putting them through Uni etc). If he could dig up a couple of kids who have British passports and were willing to pledge their future to playing for England, it could work out great. I don't see the point in signing a junior who has no intention of playing for England.
Having said that, picking young players in Australia is just as hit-and-miss as in England. Nobody would have guessed at Reed's career progression even less than a year ago.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"GH's recent article suggested that if he signs anyone from Aus/NZ it will be a young player rather than a big name (mentioned something about putting them through Uni etc). If he could dig up a couple of kids who have British passports and were willing to pledge their future to playing for England, it could work out great. I don't see the point in signing a junior who has no intention of playing for England.
Having said that, picking young players in Australia is just as hit-and-miss as in England. Nobody would have guessed at Reed's career progression even less than a year ago.'"
They'll still be non-Fed trained, at least to start with depending on their ages.
The only thing having a UK passport would get them around would be the work permit regulations.
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Team 2012:
1. [url=http://www.twitter.com/Brent_d_Webb79Brent Webb[/url =green(2012)
2. Ben Jones Bishop =blue(2014)
3. Kallum Watkins =pink(2016)
4. [url=http://www.twitter.com/zakhardaker1Zak Hardaker[/url =red(2015)
5. Ryan Hall =pink(2016)
6. Danny McGuire =orange(2013)
7. [url=http://www.twitter.com/rob7burrowRob Burrow[/url =orange(2013)
8. Kylie Leuluai =green(2012)
9. Paul McShane =red(2015)
10. [url=http://www.twitter.com/JamiePeacock10Jamie Peacock[/url =green(2012)
11. Jamie Jones Buchanan =blue(2014)
12. Carl Ablett =orange(2013)
13. Kevin Sinfield =blue(2014)
14. [url=http://www.twitter.com/smith2leeLee Smith[/url =orange(2013)
15. [url=http://www.twitter.com/brettdelaney3Brett Delaney[/url =green(2012) (Quota)
16. [url=http://www.twitter.com/hayemaker16Ryan Bailey[/url =green(2012)
17. [url=http://www.twitter.com/iankirkeIan Kirke[/url =orange(2013)
18. [url=http://www.twitter.com/chrisclarkson00Chris Clarkson[/url =pink(2016)
19. [url=http://www.twitter.com/Weller_HaurakiWeller Hauraki[/url =orange(2013) (Quota)
20. Darrell Griffin =blue(2014)
21. Richard Moore =blue(2014)
22. Jay Pitts =green(2012)
23. [url=http://www.twitter.com/bradsingoBrad Singleton[/url =orange(2013)
24. [url=http://www.twitter.com/liamhood24Liam Hood[/url =red(2015)
25. [url=http://www.twitter.com/ste_wardStevie Ward[/url =red(2015)
26. [url=http://www.twitter.com/ambler09Luke Ambler[/url =green(2012)
27. Luke Briscoe =blue(2014)
28. [url=http://www.twitter.com/jamelchisholm7Jamel Chisholm[/url =orange(2013)
29. [url=http://www.twitter.com/jazza555Jared Stewart[/url =orange(2013)
30. [url=http://www.twitter.com/smithdaniel1Daniel Smith[/url =green(2012)
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It will be interesting to see which players that are OOC in 2012 are handed new deals by the club
Which players do you think will be handed new contracts and for how long and which players will retire or will be released?
Webb ?
Big year for him as we have adequate cover in his position, but if he has a wow of a season will he be retained?
Peacock 1 year deal <rolling each season>
Delaney 3 year deal
Bailey 1 year deal <rolling each season>
Pitts ?
Talented player with great handling skills but one who hasn't yet consistently made the first team squad and on a regular basis
Ambler ?
The club has an abundance of front rowers and Ambler has made more SL appearances out on loan than whilst actually playing for the first team squad at Leeds
Smith <Daniel>?
Definately a player for the future, but do the club see him as part of our future?
It's really hard to predict which way a club decides which junior talent it retains as they are always one step ahead in terms of future signings
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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"It will be interesting to see which players that are OOC in 2012 are handed new deals by the club
Which players do you think will be handed new contracts and for how long and which players will retire or will be released?
Webb ?
Big year for him as we have adequate cover in his position, but if he has a wow of a season will he be retained?
Peacock 1 year deal <rolling each season>
Delaney 3 year deal
Bailey 1 year deal <rolling each season>
Pitts ?
Talented player with great handling skills but one who hasn't yet consistently made the first team squad and on a regular basis
Ambler ?
The club has an abundance of front rowers and Ambler has made more SL appearances out on loan than whilst actually playing for the first team squad at Leeds
Smith <Daniel>?
Definately a player for the future, but do the club see him as part of our future?
It's really hard to predict which way a club decides which junior talent it retains as they are always one step ahead in terms of future signings'"
Retains for me:
J. Peacock (1 Year deal)
R. Bailey (3 Year deal) - Replacement for K. Leuluai.
J. Pitts (3 Year deal)
D. Smith (5 Year deal)
Get rid of:
B. Webb - Replaced by Ben Jones Bishop at fullback
B. Delaney - Replaced by Pitts / Hauraki / D Smith / AN Other.
L. Ambler will leave the club if he goes out on loan this season IMO.
Also, can see new deals been given to Singleton (5 Year deal), McGuire and Burrow (3 Year deals), Ablett (5 Year deal), Chisholm (5 Year deal) and also, at the minute, L. Smith (3 Year deal)
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Bailey (2yrs)
JP(1yr rolling)
Pitts( i would look to get him out on ,oan to a SL team then decide).
Daniel Smith (at least 2yrs and again get him out on loan hopefully in SL).
I'd also re-call Amor depending on his form IF he maintains it then i'd be happy to take up the remaining 2yr deal.
As for the other renewals amongst the younger players i'd be looking to either getting them into the team for at least 8/10 games next year and then re-assess IF they continue show and improve their potential then get them into the squad on a regular basis or again out on loan the U20's isn't good enough to test them on a regular basis.
I'm sure Contracts for the likes Mags ,Burrow and Ablett etc etc will take care of themselves.
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| I can see McGuire and Burrow getting 3 year deals extension ,the existing contracts runout in 2013 ,but Ithink they will be amended this year.GH may come up with some young over sea's signings to start in 2013
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| A real quality signing has to be on the cards for next season, surely, as we must have a fair bit of salary cap space left at the moment and with Kylie going probably Ambler and maybe Webb and Delaney. There must be 200k in wages just there to go alongside the money we have spare from Buderus leaving.
I dont know who is OOC especially in Australia but we should be able to attract a top player. Somebody with the reputation of Mullins, Toopi or Eastwood but turns out to be as good as we expected those 3 to be!!
Adam Blair maybe?
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| I would'nt be too quick to speculate how much we'd have to spend jarvis ,lets not forget the contract upgrades for the younger-lads who are now 1st team plus the expected emergance of others from the U20's.
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| I think Delaney has plenty to offer and his best is to come. He won't be on massive money and is better than a lot of SL backrowers and is miles better than Pitts.
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| Adam Blair maybe?quote
Is that the same Adam Blair that's just joined Wests on a 4 year, half a million dollars per season contract?!!?
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| It's not only Pitts though Wilko Singleton has been shifted to the BR ,Jjb ,Ablett ,Clarkson ,Hauraki and then there's other youngsters like Jordan Stewart (If he recovers from his knee op) Bravo ,Roche and Stott all of which have shown potential.
Don't get me wrong i think Delaney has done well but would you extend his deal at the risk of losing someone like Singleton or Stewart??
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