This young player might make a better fist of the conversion to RU:

[urlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/34722651[/url

Him being a fan of the Game gives him a better understanding for a start. He will give it a good go, with no pressure to make the England Squad in 5-6 months

The BBC is reporting that he's left Bath with immediate effect.
More to follow

Well it's Souths according to BBC. ah wel. It was nice dreaming

How do the BBC know? They are just assuming?

No other news outlet has reported that.

Quote ="krisleeds"How do the BBC know? They are just assuming? No other news outlet has reported that.'" www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/34732141 But ok

Quote ="krisleeds"How do the BBC know? They are just assuming? No other news outlet has reported that.'" www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/34732141 But ok

Most of the media has picked the story up. It looks like Souths I hope this includes a 12 month loan to Leeds. Last night McNamara was widely quoted as saying something was happening.

No official confirmation it's the Souths as yet.. there's nothing from the Souths or Leeds. Great news though but it's a crying shame for Super League if he does go to Souths.

Nothing on the Leeds or Rabbits twitter account or websites. No statements, nothing.

Shoddy presumptious journalism from the BBC (as per normal)

Obviously pre-written 'is he a quitter' article now on BBC website.

The BBC really are on a par with the Daily Mail.

Maybe hearing it from Bath players maybe? The Bath local paper is saying he reportedly messaged his Bath teammates this morning to tell them he's leaving.

[urlhttp://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/nov/05/sam-burgess-bath-rugby-union-league[/url

Can't get very excited about him returning to souths. Would have loved him at Leeds for selfish reasons, but deep down would have preferred him to stay at bath and prove the doubters wrong

See what you mean - but at least that dodgy bridge between Union and League is now burnt to a crisp...

Said Ford might want to reign himself in with what he was saying. He's been made to look a bit silly now especially with it happening so hot on the heels of his words on Tuesday.

Problem Bath had was that he only went to RU to play for England.....joining Bath was just a means to an end because he needed a club side to achieve this.

Just heard that he's not going to south's and is going to join Daryl Clark and Westerman at Leeds.

I've heard Sinfield has told Carnegie he doesn't fancy RU anymore and he going to fulfil his long time ambition of joining The 'Wolfs'

Haha like that, maybe to drive Clark to training in case Westerman loses his licence and then he will drive Westerman as well to training

Sounds feasible

Get back to us when you're a top 5 team again

If anything good has come out of being in for but losing out on Sam Burgess. Is that we managed to dodge the Westerman bullet.

Not only does it do the obvious of making other RL players wary of trying it. But also RU clubs are going to be reluctant to try it again I feel after this.

It was basically England who wanted him and convinced him to join and gave him promises about a WC spot. He of course needed to join a club side and Bath was sounded out. England however couldn't help finance it without other clubs kicking off so Bath had to go it alone financially for England's benefit. This then lead to the awkwardness of Bath not having to follow what England wanted and not keeping him at centre for them.

Bath have been made to look silly in this saga and I can't see other clubs rushing to England's aid to heavily finance another big name RL convert.

Sorry but I think you're being unreasonable there, can't expect a guy to refrain from commenting on our board for that long

See you are still obsessed with what Ford is alleged to have said. You don't seem to like him much



I think that he would have remained with Bath and gone on to become an international superstar in Union had their ex-players mafia not done a hatchet job on him in the national press, blaming him for England's exit from the WC with almost slanderous comments. Not enough was done to support him through this very difficult period and point out how well he had done in such a short time.

Will Greenwood tweeted today " Am I hearing Sam Burgess has left Bath? If so rugby union has let the lad down..."

"Alleged", their's no alleged about it theirs a video of him from Tuesday with the words coming out of his mouth. You then posted an article in which he's quoted as saying different. Considering 48 hours later Burgess is leaving then think I was pretty spot on about Ford's words being contradictory and casting doubt on his version of events.



Oh the media gave him a hard time no doubt but it was starting to die down to the point that the fingers were starting to point towards the England RU setup.

And whilst he's been hard done, at the same time he's got to shoulder some blame for thinking he could walk into an RU international within about 10/11 months. Sure people like Lancaster would've been sweet talking him but he should've realised how unrealistic the task was and let's not pretend he wasn't given assurances about making the WC before he signed on the dotted line.

The likes of Lancaster and Farrell and the RFU deserve more blame but Sam should've been wise enough to realise the daftness of rushing him into the International team. Even though he wanted to play in the forwards he also shouldn't have urged Bath to pick him there when it was obvious England wouldn't. He should've asked to play every single game possible at centre to give him as much experience of that position as possible before the WC.