Overall you can't question what Leeds have done over the last 5 or so years. There have been some odd decisions though (see tvocs list although other smay disagree with some of them), and signing Buderus is one. I just wonder what exactly the thinking was. Looking at the squad, you could have made an argument for signing a backup or impact hooker. I've just never seen the sense in signing a second 60-80 minute hooker.

leicester_rhino - We don't have a mickey mouse management team but if they make the same mistake they did in 2000 then it is unforgivable. At the moment it looks like they have.

I imagine the rationale is that we need a second hooker. Lets get the best one we can.

I'd have thought that is a naive approach, and this management more than any other would have appreciated that a team is more than the sum of its parts, and having the best parts doesn't always make the best team

What are the right reasons for moving half way around the world to play in an inferior league in sunny old northern England?

To have the opportunity to play in the most prestigious RL Cup competition in the world. Perchance to dream of being able to play in the final at Wembley.

Why anyone would then decide to sign for Leeds escapes me though.

So was Diskin so woeful against Hull KR because of having no Buderus there? or inspite of having no Buderus there?

I would like to see the comments of the usual Buderus critics showing some consistency here. Bet I don't get it.

I don't understand McShane only getting a few minutes last night, as Diskin was massively disappointing. Would much rather have had Buderus in there. Diskin was one of the senior players last night but failed to stand up.

Do you think Danny Buderus flew half way around the world to sacrifice a little extra in his pocket in order to be part of a good set of lads?

I wonder how the forehead, Burrow, McGuire etc must feel that this waste of space hooker is probably earning more than them

I would think they approach it like other people In other walks of life. you negotiate a contract and sign it! if the bloke next to you can get more cash then fair play to him you dont go crying to the boss, if you did you would get laughed at. If the players in question do have a problem it will be with their agents not the Leeds club or bedsy. but in reality non of us have a clue what any player is on. It's all pub talk and pipe dreams

What can I say based on one game? For a start your first sentence doesn't make sense.

Diskin has a poor game and suddenly we were right to sign a 2nd hooker. fekwitted knee jerking of the highest order.

I have made no statement at all so dont understand the sentence.

I have asked two questions, feel free to answer them if you want, or just leave it.

I don't think Diskin had such a bad game last night. He was defensively sound compared to most and distributed the ball to those around him who are supposed to be pivotal ballplayers.

I thought disco played well last night! though mcshane did some good things but his passing out of dummy half was very slow, not quite up to the speed of the sl game but more first team action will improve that! didn't think disco did anything wrong really! It was all the dropped ball on the first and second tackle, some with the line begging. the bombed chances: jp, senior, mcshane chip to clarkson, jjb knocking on the bomb with nobody infront of him with support on both shoulders. The poor kicking game, the lack of building pressure near the opposition try line, lack of repeat sets and trying to score of every play near the line. poor set plays with no dummy runners, people stood still getting the ball.

and we still should have won

Could have added Amor's tackling technique and Coady being a turnstile in the first half



All in all Disko did a decent job!

Not been funny. But were you watching the right player? The play from dummy half was far quicker and crisper with McShane. It was also very accurate passes. Unlike what we were getting from Diskin throughout the match, who basically played exactly like what you have desribed above.

Neither bears any relevance to us signing Buderus.

I know it doesn't. I thought this thread had gone into the two hooker thing, and then whether Buderus should play or Diskin.

Well without Buderus there Diskin put in his worst performance of the season. So was that because Buderus was not there? or Inspite of him not been there?

Neither.

What if we don't agree with your premise that Diskin was woeful because, like Sgt Wilko, I don't agree. Where does that take your question?

That said, this thread is primarily about the wisdom of the Buderus signing and what good he does the team. That you think it supports the Buderus signing to highlight yet another game that he has missed because of injury simply shows that the coach journey your brain departed on some time ago has taken you further away from common sense that ever.

BTW, although you don't realise it you've actually hit upon something that supports us "Budreus Critics". A hooker that came off the bench and actually change the pace of the game and made a difference. Sadly the poor lad was only given 10 minutes for some baffling reason. That said, McShane's display shows even more why the Buderus signing was completely unnecessary and a waste of money.

Still, fingers crossed that the legend from Australia might just be fit enough to play a game in blue and amber next week so our fans can fawn over him eh?

I hope he's fit next week not fawn on him but for mine we are a better team with him in the the squad.I feel at the moment he's only playing at 70% of his capabilities which hopefully with more games under his belt will improve that stat.

Are we? Where is the evidence from the last 18 months to prove this?



So having a holiday then?

There isn't any evidence just a gut feeling.
He's far from having a holiday as when he plays he gives his all.The 70% comment was based on form not effort.

A gut feeling that we're better with him in the squad? He's been here 18 months and you only have a gut feeling we're better with him in the squad?

No disresepct but that's rubbish.

Gut feeling was the wrong terminology. I know I would rather have him in the team than not.