So you now want 2 17+ Stone hookers? (what you do in your personal life...). Think you need to go back to the drawing board on your RL education (and your maths).

It's being scrutinised as you put it because it's simply nonsense. Tetevano is the lightest at 16.5 and Holroyd is over 17 so I'm not sure how you're getting an average of 16.5 (unless youre including the wingers of course).

You don't get many 18 St 2nd rows (ah for another Lauititi).

Of cause it would.This season we have addressed the front row.There is only Tet who would say is lightweight but he does make up for that with work rate.

I'm not sure where the idea came from that we're lightweight now? Last year we had Prior (16 stone) and Mustapha (15 stone) in our rotation and didn't have Holroyd available. This year five of our six props are over 17 stone and Tetevano is just under. If we get outgunned upfront its not pure size that's the issue.

I don't think we should pick both Bentley and Donaldson in the 17, as that does make us undersized. I don't see that happening a lot this year as Donaldson will fall back in the pecking order when everyone's fit.

Austin looked like he was struggling with a leg injury late on in the Wakey game. Pretty sure they brought him off. Might be in doubt for Thursday.

We were definitely lightweight last year with Thompson, Donaldson and Muizz playing in the front row.
But the addition of Sangare and Lisone, as well as the return of Holroyd and the emergence of Walters has addressed that.
If we can get Sangare and Lisone match fit, and Holroyd can stay fit, we have a front row rotation of 6 that will match most other teams.
Oledski and Tetevano will also benefit from some rotation.

I’d be tempted to use the money saved and quota space freed up from Tetevano on a 1 or 6/7. We will still have Oledzki, Holroyd, Sangar, Lisone and Walters to take us forwards, so the money would be better spent elsewhere and buy a big lump
From the Championship and develop them or one of the kids is 6th prop.

We need more pace at the back and in the halves, not more front row size.

The problem with not replacing Tetevano though is that I'm not sure who other than Mik is a real starting prop. Maybe Walters or Holroyd in time

I’d continue starting Holroyd, he can do the tough stuff, can play decent minutes and is already getting better with more game time and responsibility.

Oledzki and Holroyd starting, one off after 20 and one of Sangare / Lisone / Walters on, then another switch 10 mins later as the opposition pack starts to tire.

Is this the start of the of the Tet must stay campaign? Seriously though, I know what you are saying. Now he's surrounded by somd some big lads he's cracking on with what he does best and looks a far better player for it.

Credit where its due, Tet has improved week on week and is putting in decent shifts. Unfortunately that is all they are, decent shifts. Not enough for a marquee spot but certainly not the liability he has been at some points last season

Playing Castleford at the right time. It appears there is trouble in the camp with Radford leaving and the team in free fall at the moment.

If his improvement continues it'd be on greatly reduced terms. He could probably get more as a 7th 8th choice in the NRL. Good to be in the position of control rather than desperately offering contracts out.

No, you are putting words in my mouth now. I just think that a 13.5 stone and 14 stone hookers are too light for my liking.

I'd prefer to see bigger hookers, such as Buderus, Diskin, and Newton, who all have a couple of stone on Leeming, Johnson, and O'Conner.



Oledzki - 17 stone
Lisone - 17 stone
Holroyd - 17 stone
Tetevano - 16.5 stone
Gibbons - 16 stone
Ruan - 16 stone

(17+17+17+16.5+16+16)/6 = 16.5833333333 stone.



Four out of six of our second rowers weigh in at 15 stone. I'm not saying we need 18 stone second rowers, just a touch more bulk per man.

But again, I don't know why you are getting so anal about it. I prefer a pack on the heavier side, you don't, so what?

The beauty of the squad at the moment is the amount of youth. The younger guys, who also tend to be the lightest, are going to naturally fill out and put a little bulk on in the next couple of years.

What are you on about, our 6 props are Oledzki, Lisone, Tetevano, Holroyd, Sangare, and Walters. Why you've included Ruan and Gibbons 2 junior squad players is anyone's guess.

Because I've used every eligible player in the squad. The same as what Smith could.

If we had a bad run of front row injuries/suspensions they could be selected.

I'm sorry if that upsets you.

I'm going to leave it at that, as you seem only to want to pick at my posts because I have a differing opinion about things, rather than actually discuss anything.

No you haven't, you've left sangare and Walters out to try fit your claim that our props average 16.5st. If you want to play that game add all 8 in and divide by 8 giving you over 17st 109kg.

Yeah I think I'll leave it there as I'm not the only one picking up on your posts lack of facts. Opinions are great but you're just spinning some strange stuff.

SL site also have Mik and Holroyd as 116kg. Either way, we don't have a light pack now.

Go back through my posts and read what I actually said. Then you'll know why I left Sangare out, and got the 16.5st figure.

Admittedly, I did leave Walters out. I had him down as a second row/back row.



The Leeds bios have them as 107 and 110 respectively. That's a stone difference, so maybe they have put a bit of timber on recently.

It's worth noting that I am pleasantly surprised to realise that we are not as lightweight as I thought. But I'd still like more bulk.

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On a separate note, rumour has it that Adam Milner is now leaving Cas. It should be an easy win for us, gauging by Cas's current performance and the obvious unhappy camp.

Cas are never easy. It’s their cup final playing Leeds at home

Absolutely. I've been going to watch us "down the lane" for 40 plus years and I can count the number of easy wins on one hand.

Thank god Leeds Luke has gone quiet, might get some decent posts now and totally agree that Leeds at Cas is not often a walkover despite injuries or poor form.

weather will be a leveller too. never easy there but you have to win these games and I think we will

Same here though 'only' 30 + years for me

No need to gloat.