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| ...as I said, it wasn't just the line breaks and trys, they were pulled apart all game, regardless of their left edge being strong it was an issue never fixed up all game.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Our right edge wasn't so bad'"
We cannot have been watching the same game. Your right edge defence was a shambles all game and a better team will expose that even more ruthlessly than Wakefield did unless they improve.
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| Quote ="Shabino"Couple of breakaway trys can happen in any game with Johnstone, he's that quick!'"
I dunno. It seemed to me last season we were conceding tries like this with alarming regularity. We need to cut this stuff out, especially when it comes against the run of play and against teams we might be expected to beat more convincingly. In the first instance we need to make sure we cut down space for these kind of plays, but it would also be nice to have a few players who were capable of snuffing out this kind of danger once the break has been made (as Hardaker used to do for us at FB before his departure). Hopefully a few more players back in the team will help - Handley in particular.
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| Our right edge were really poor against Wakey.
If Estmond isn`t ready I would sooner go for both Sutcliffes in the centre spots with Broadbent in the halves.
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| Will be interesting to see when Eastmond is deemed ready. If not this week is a knock out game against the best in the comp, and we take on last year's runners up a week later. Tough gigs anyway you look at them.
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| Either Eastmond on the bench for this one or he doesn't play until the Wigan game.
Resuming his career with a game at Saints away is a bad idea for multiple reasons, not least it will be a media circus and a distraction all of which will almost certainly not be helpful to his preparation.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Either Eastmond on the bench for this one or he doesn't play until the Wigan game.
Resuming his career with a game at Saints away is a bad idea for multiple reasons, not least it will be a media circus and a distraction all of which will almost certainly not be helpful to his preparation.'"
Totally agree. It’d be a bad move playing his first game v Saints.. would put him under far too much pressure
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| Looking like we will be unchanged as Agar says it’s unlikely that Eastmond will play this week.
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| For me we should play him whenever we think he's ready - opposition doesn't bother me. It was a very long time ago he was at Saints now. I don't think he'd be fussed by it, he's a professional. No crowd either (which could have made it more tasty).
The benefits of getting a fit, skilful and dedicated 6 back in the side outweigh some of the negatives for me. Very interested to see how he goes.
With the side selection, I'd say it's likely we'll run with same again. We won the game against Wakey and actually looked alright for the most part. I'd still be tempted to switch A Sutcliffe and Broadbent around in the centres. Mellor is a good defender on the LHS and Broadbent is more used to playing there - for me, probably his long-term position too with Newman at 3.
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| I'd have no problem running Eastmond against saints. After all there won't be a crowd and it's not as if there's half their side with a grudge. Must only be Roby who's still there from when he played for them
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| Quote ="Clearwing"I'd have no problem running Eastmond against saints. After all there won't be a crowd and it's not as if there's half their side with a grudge. Must only be Roby who's still there from when he played for them'"
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| From our 21 it'll be same as last week I'd imagine I maybe would be tempted to go with
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| Eastmond out and Hall in, rest is unchanged from last weeks 21 man squad
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| Quote ="Frosties."Eastmond out and Hall in, rest is unchanged from last weeks 21 man squad'" Probably will be the same team. I'd be tempted to play Smith at 6 especially with no scrums and move Sutcliffe back to centre. A Sutcliffe to the bench or even out of the team which would be harsh., that would leave a bench place for either Walters or King.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"Probably will be the same team. I'd be tempted to play Smith at 6 especially with no scrums and move Sutcliffe back to centre. A Sutcliffe to the bench or even out of the team which would be harsh., that would leave a bench place for either Walters or King.'"
Depends on what Agar does tactically against castleford, which he’s very good at predicting, see CC SF last season v Wigan but I personally wouldn’t mind that, because Sutcliffe can move about if needs be too, between Broadbent/A Sutcliffe/Hall for that centre spot, which is a great battle for youngsters.
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| Got impression from Agars presser that Broadbent wont play this week but we will see.
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| Cant say I got that impression, just alluding to the fact hes got areas to improve. Hes the best viable option at the minute at centre so I'd be surprised.
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| Quote ="Seth"Cant say I got that impression, just alluding to the fact hes got areas to improve. Hes the best viable option at the minute at centre so I'd be surprised.'"
All depends on what they plan to do at 6 for this week. If Sutty plays 6 then centres will remain the same.
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| Good test this as Cas looked in control v a poor attacking performance by the Wire.
Agar spoke about fixing up our right side defence. I hope he has also been working with Luke Briscoe on staying on his wing and not charging inside to try and shut down a half, FB, second row or centre. He needs to stick with olpherts or he could have a field day.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"All depends on what they plan to do at 6 for this week. If Sutty plays 6 then centres will remain the same.'"
If Sutcliffe goes to centre I'd still say Broadbent plays as the other centre.
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| Quote ="Seth"If Sutcliffe goes to centre I'd still say Broadbent plays as the other centre.'" I agree.
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| That said I fully anticipate Sutcliffe will still be at 6. If that's the case I'd like to see a really strong/physical middle rotation and dominate that area with Mik and Prior starting, Smith 13 and Tetevano and King coming off the bench. Maybe Thompson starting in place of mellor too to add even more physicality to the pack from the off.
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| Quote ="Seth"If Sutcliffe goes to centre I'd still say Broadbent plays as the other centre.'"
He should but i reckon Alex Sutcliffe would get the nod but lets see.
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| We seem to have a glut of centres at the moment - Nichol and Stewart coming through, noises that the club might see Edwards as a centre too. Noticed Oli Field is apparently wanting to move to 13 as well. I know we haven't seen them play for a while but there is still some cracking talent in the system. Can't wait to see the academy start up playing games again.
I quite like aspects of A Sutcliffe's game and he seems a good professional .
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| Do we have any halfbacks coming through?
Got all nostalgic yesterday watching Widnes V Leeds from 2002 when Danny Mcguire scored his first SL try.
Stevi said something like these young kids will be the spine of the Rhinos for years to come and lead them to success - he wasn’t wrong!
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