It's actually a positive that we still won, despite that second half.....
We can improve.
1) Walker coming back in
2) Myler playing too well to be dropped, is give him a few games in the halves with Gale.
3) Cam Smith needs to come back in for big minutes. Was great pre injury.

100% agree we lost a middle fwd Briscoe also went off & then went behind to a Team who rarely lose when they take lead of a game late on.
Also they played with zero pressure , our lads regrouped got stuck in & took the deserved win it wasnt terrible or pathetic it was finals RL & our kads deserve all the acolades.

qoute It's actually a positive that we still won, despite that second half.....
We can improve.
1) Walker coming back in
2) Myler playing too well to be dropped, is give him a few games in the halves with Gale.
3) Cam Smith needs to come back in for big minutes. Was great pre injury. qoute

I hate to say this but I`ve pretty much disagreed with practically all your posts and assumptionsthis year.
Now that doesn`t make you wrong but find it funny this seems to be the case.
With Myler back in the halves it pretty much puts us back where we were before.Disjointed and no link between the forwards and the backs.
Myler`s best position is FB and Walker and Myler can share that role until the end of the season for me.
Smith`s last couple of games imo was poor although prior to that was reasonably good.

But each to their own that`s what this site is all about

I don't want Myler anywhere near the half's unless its totally necessary

Yeah I'm not a fan of putting Myler back in at HB either. For me we have 2 sides running alternately for the remainder of the season pretty much, and Walker is FB in one side and Myler the other. I want players playing IN position where we can, and if Myler was only going to play half at Leeds I'd have let him go, personally.

There is an argument to bring in Holroyd, Smith and Walker against Saints - in the hope those boys are a) fresh and b) want to prove a point. It also tells them that they very much are in "the plan", which they may need to be signalled now I don't know. The Saints game is a big one for me: win it and we might have a tilt at the grand final, lose it and it looks very difficult. It's almost like an early eliminator (for us!).

As I've said before though, the problem with swapping Myler and Walker is they're just very different players, and the rest of the team has to adapt.

I do see what people are saying about the tactics of throwing Saints and focusing on the more "winnable" games.

The other side of this is that Saints have had 2 weeks so are fresh yes - but that weekly intensity can sometimes be a benefit. We've seen this in Grand Finals before...

would walker be better at hb or broadbent , not a fan of mclelland or dropping myler just to give walker a game

Why not just leave Robert Lui there. If injuries than Mclelland should be next in line. I feel for Mclelland as he has never really had a chance to play with a dominant pack. He showed at Featherstone that he has quality.

sorry meant to put if lui not fit , i'd go full strength while a chance of top 4

sorry meant to put if lui not fit , i'd go full strength while a chance of top 4

If Lui isn't fit then as I post above it should be Mclelland. If he wasn't fit also then I presume it would be Myler. Walker I don't think hands the hands for 6. Broadbent probably does but I doubt he would be in before Mclelland and Myler.

Walker
L Briscoe L Sutcliffe Hurrell Handley
Lui McLelland
Seumanufagai Leeming Oledzki
Martin Mellor
Smith

Dwyer Holroyd Walters Mustapha

Rest Myler, Briscoe, Gale, Prior, Donaldson.

My wife disagrees with practically everything I say too, and we've been married 10 years!!
5 children later we pretty much agree to disagree on alot of things, but have respect for each other.
I'm sure me and thee would be great friends, if we ever get to watch another game with a beer

Personally i wouldnt be letting Tommy, Walters or Muizz anywhere near Alex Walmsley at this stage. I think it could do more harm to them than good. I want to see them feature in strong teams before the season is out but i want it to benefit them not hinder their confidence.

Games coming so thick and fast now its going to be silly season for all clubs. Plenty of opportunities for lads to play between now and the end of the season. Saints are the big misters of SL and we need to match that with experience i feel.

I think for the remainder of the season we should look to rotate but keep the team similar match to match rather than have a team 1 and team 2.

Look to have first teamers do 2 games in , 1 game off and rotate the kids in to fill the gaps.

Anyone who has a niggle, or this week has celebrated a bit hard to get a rest, but be ready for the next game.

Yes i noticed we won and i thought for the majority of the first half we were very good but the 2nd half myself , Sir Kevin and Luke Gale amongst others thought we were very poor . Did we deserve the win ? . Over all i think we did .

Haha spot on mate that`s what makes the world go round.
You probably deserve a pint looking after 5 kids


Keep the thought provoking messages going bud.

You're right it is a fine line. Some of them have already played Chris Hill who is right up there still.

I think the key is not to hide them but not to over-expose them. Playing seasoned, physical pros week on week might not do much for your confidence. Tommy can hold his own just about anyway although it must be hard coming from Academy where he bulldozered everyone into the brick walls in SL. Huge gap.

If we play a strong pack then Holroyd will be fine and i'm sure he'll love to try and put a big hit on Walmsley thats what good young confident props like to do. .Agar could always bring him on when Walmsley is spelled.

Absolutely. The younger side performed honorably in the Cats and Wire games, sending the same out v Saints is a push too far and would do more harm than good. Holroyd in for Cuthbertson, Smith in and maybe another in where needed and valuable. Either way im intrigued to whats calls will come out of the camp and their approach to the next few games.

Yeah it will be interesting to see the clubs approach Seth.

Hopefully it is the youth rotated in rather than Ferres, Thompson, Evans and Harrison. These four should only come in to fill gaps that cannot be filled by the youngsters.

Walker
Lui
Seumanufagai
Dwyer
Myler
Oledzki
Thompson
Evans
Smith
Mclelland
Briscoe
Donaldson
Sutcliffe
Walters
Holroyd
O’Connor
Broadbent
Hall
Tindall
Harrison
Edwards

On the squad news looks like we might be throwing this game however theres a decentish team to be had from it. Id go with

Walker
L Briscoe
A Sutcliffe
Broadbent
Tindall
Lui
Mclelland
Holroyd
Dwyer
Ava
Thompson
Walters
Smith

Oledski
Donaldson
Oconner
Harrison

Walker

L Briscoe
Broadbent
Evans
Tindall

Lui
Myler

Holroyd
Dwyer
Oledzki

Thompson
Walters

Smith

Mclelland
Sutcliffe
Donaldson
Ava

Complete stab in the dark really. Interesting few weeks ahead- clearly focussing on certain games!

I for one hope Agar comes out as a tactical genius and takes us to a grand final just for the pure wind up factor....

I'm gonna guess at.

Walker
Tindall
Evans
Broadbent
L.Briscoe
Lui
Mclelland
Holroyd
Dwyer
Donaldson
Thompson
A.Sutcliffe
Smith

Subs

Walters
O' Connor
Hall
Harrison

Think if we had our full choice 17 out against saints it'd be a tough task at securing 2 points. Rest majority of our best 17 for Cas on Monday and go from there squad rotation is gonna really kick in now with hectic fixture list.