Maybe it should be billed as the team that can no longer attack versus the team that can no longer defend?

Sadly there is the issues of contracts - my understanding was Ablett was given a two year contract so he will be here next year regardless of the coach - same goes for a number in the squad. Lolohea & Crosby has two years left after this one seldom plays - and the other doesn't appear to be either fit or good enough - what can a new coach do in a salary cap sport.

Have to ask, this not moving contracted players on, its not impossible. Warrington refreshed our squad in 2015/16 and moved a number of players out that werent in smiths plans.

Jonas went to cas with 12 month left on a contract, chris bridge was shown the door with 2 years left and both james laithwaite and gary wheeler went before their deals expired.

Requires owners with deep pockets. Leeds I think must now realise they need to do the same

I think we have to be imaginative. Also when push comes to shove in some cases we just need these guys away from the club. If we have to pay their salary but they are either a bad dressing room influence or just comically bad then we may as well pay them to play for someone on loan and put a kid in the team instead.

Whilst some of the older players (e.g. Cuthbertson) might be happy to just take the coin and run out their contracts, some younger players might decide that the long-term impact of dropping into the Championship (or lower) after being deemed surplus in a dreadful SL side might be worse than trying to move whilst they still retain some market value. Not to mention self respect and some kind of urge to be seen to be good players.

after residing out of the country for over ten years I had to go on a waiting list for a seat season ticket .I was under the impression they would inform me when seats came available and would be given an opportunity to upgrade . All ive got is a chance to sit down for the opening of the North stand and take in the "carnival "atmosphere . I'm going to call in today and ask can I have a seat for rest of season because my old knees cant stand for over two hours any more .

This whole "carnival" atmosphere is going to massively backfire on this club come 9:30 pm on Thursday. They have lost the plot big time here.

Perhaps they will unveil our new coach and a proper 6 ?
I know dream on!

McGuire unveiled by new permanent head coach Richard Agar?

I feel your pain, I can't do long stints of standing anymore either. Hope you get decent seats

Cheers yes I'm in southstand ,but I told them I expected to be informed when Seats became available. No answer but I. Fairness nothing to do with the office staff

Mr Hetherington you can now stop emailing me trying to get me to be part of history for the opening of the Northstand. I've now upgraded to a Southstand seat I'm not interested in slideshows. Tonight I want to see some Effort and heart that's all I'm bothered about

Plenty of South stand seats available next season !!! based on player performance !

I understand all the doom and gloom but the delivery of this investment is incredible for a RL club. It takes the club to a different level in terms of facilities. As fans we should applauding the management team and fully support their moment in the sun. Anyone who has ever worked on an important project can appreciate the sense of relief when it is delivered and the need to celebrate its completion

Totally agree on this.

Also we have to remember there’s half the season left to play in a league that bar the top few clubs is very close, string a few wins together and the league table looks totally different, I’m over the doom and gloom, I hope the team have drawn a line over the first part of the season.

Ask me tomorrow if I'm over the doom & gloom

Even if we get hammered im over it, pointless going round and round the same discussion points...

How do you get over something that is still ongoing? It isn't sorted yet.

I can’t do anything to sort it though, so I’m promising myself to stop worrying about it, i’ll channel My inner Dorris Day

Can not see us "stringing a few wins together". Which of these fixtures do you really believe we can win 2 - 3 in a row - IMO - NONE

CASTLEFORD TIGERS
LONDON BRONCOS
WAKEFIELD TRINITY
WIGAN WARRIORS
ST HELENS
CATALANS DRAGONS
CASTLEFORD TIGERS

Who knows, all of them?, none of them? the top 3 are all winnable, pointless speculating or worrying about it as I say.

Bottom line is if we win at the Magic game and then match the results of London for the rest of the season we are safe. If we win at their place and Magic, it’s hard to see us go down.

Unbelievable we are having this discussion...

Que sera, sera we're not going to WEMBLEY ..

Leeds will not get relegated - there are far too many clever people at that club to let it happen plus unlike a lot of other clubs Leeds has access to the necessary cash/funds to make things happen.

It’s ok having the cash available to buy a player but so far (Connor/McGuire) that’s not actually translated into anyone signing.

Fact is I think you’re safe because London are in SL. Next year I’ve a feeling it will be Salford. But finishing next to bottom isn’t anything to get excited about.