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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"Sometimes successful clubs like Leeds,and with a squad full of international players often lose out on promising youngsters that they were intent on signing
I was told that Tom Johnstone was massively on the Rhinos radar as a junior but that he simply chose Wakey because he knew that he wasn't going to get a look in for a number of years at the club at first team level due to us having Ryan Hall and Tom Briscoe as the current incumbents and that he had a far better chance at first team footy if he signed for Wakey
We lost out on a fantastic player there and Wakey gained as a result,so it often works both ways.
IMO Tom took the correct option by signing for Wakey by backing his ability and good on him'"
Tbf with Leeds just been a few miles down the road and borders on Wakefield it's no wonder talented lads may end up there, (it's hardly like going to Saints or Wigan for example) and in Trinity's case, we got TJ from your side of the M62.
Like I said earlier, Leeds have plenty of advantages both in terms of city size, success and how well it's been run since GH came on board over Trinity and Cas but as you say it can be swings and roundabouts as far as signing these young guys up.
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| Anyone wanting a spot in the south stand needs a ticket - no cash turnstiles. I assume there are for other areas...
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| You'll get in the South, you'll just have to queue out the door from the ticket office to get them.
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| Wonder when the teams being announced, they usually announce it 5-6 days before for boxing day. next 24 hours maybe.
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| 21 man squad announced looks very strong for boxing day, obviously Furner wants a good look at plenty of players.
who is Number 12?
1. Jack Walker
2. Tom Briscoe
4. Konrad Hurrell
5. Ash Handley
6. Tui Lolohea
7. Richie Myler (C)
8. Adam Cuthbertson
9. Matt Parcell
12. Dan Waite-Pullan
13. Stevie Ward
14. Brad Dwyer
15. Liam Sutcliffe
17. Anthony Mullally
18. Nathaniel Peteru
19. Mikolaj Oledzki
20. Jamie Jones-Buchanan
21. Ashton Golding
22. Cameron Smith
23. James Donaldson
24. Luke Briscoe
30. Alex Sutcliffe
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"21 man squad announced looks very strong for boxing day, obviously Furner wants a good look at plenty of players.
who is Number 12?
1. Jack Walker
2. Tom Briscoe
4. Konrad Hurrell
5. Ash Handley
6. Tui Lolohea
7. Richie Myler (C)
8. Adam Cuthbertson
9. Matt Parcell
12. Dan Waite-Pullan
13. Stevie Ward
14. Brad Dwyer
15. Liam Sutcliffe
17. Anthony Mullally
18. Nathaniel Peteru
19. Mikolaj Oledzki
20. Jamie Jones-Buchanan
21. Ashton Golding
22. Cameron Smith
23. James Donaldson
24. Luke Briscoe
30. Alex Sutcliffe'"
Looks pretty much a full squad, this should be fun
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| No Trent Merrin I see. Slight hip injury
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| Both squads don’t seem to be missing many. Leeds - Watkins, Ferres, Merrin, Ablett, Crosby, Singleton? Wakefield- Johnstone?
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| Quote ="Seth"Both squads don’t seem to be missing many. Leeds - Watkins, Ferres, Merrin, Ablett, Crosby, Singleton? Wakefield- Johnstone?'"
Of those likely to see first team this season then we are not playing...
Johnstone
Huby
Horo
Reynolds
Crowther
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| looking at that i think we could struggle for go forward in the pack?
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| Quote ="vastman"Of those likely to see first team this season then we are not playing...
Johnstone
Huby
Horo
Reynolds
Crowther
...in that order.'"
England as well mate.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"England as well mate.'"
You always miss one
Suppose it shows How much depth we have compared to previous years.
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| Boxing Day-
Josh was fantastic- oh Warri Warri, Warri Warri Warri Warri Josh Warrington!
He fought well last night!
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| He did, it really has been Warrington's year
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| no Hurrell now as well
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"no Hurrell now as well'"
Personally I was going boxing day regardless of the team put out but it does seem Leeds have led people on as hurrell had the injury when he was announced in the squad and now he has been pulled out. Could excuse some gamesmanship during SL season but not in pre season and I don't buy any bs about seeing if got better, he was never going to be played.
In other news it will be interesting to see how sutty goes in the 2nd row and petreu as a starting prop.
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| Think to say Leeds have led people on is a bit harsh. Furner named 21 and said a couple had knocks and he take squad to 19. They've let fans know he isn't playing.
It's same with every friendly. Lolohea will probably play 25 mins. It's only a run out to earn club some pennies. Meaningless game.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Think to say Leeds have led people on is a bit harsh. Furner named 21 and said a couple had knocks and he take squad to 19. They've let fans know he isn't playing.
It's same with every friendly. Lolohea will probably play 25 mins. It's only a run out to earn club some pennies. Meaningless game.'"
I wouldn't say it is a meaningless game but I know what you mean.
If hurrell was never going to be risked, which is how I interpret the comments today then why put him in the squad other than to try sell more tickets?
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Think to say Leeds have led people on is a bit harsh. Furner named 21 and said a couple had knocks and he take squad to 19. They've let fans know he isn't playing.
It's same with every friendly. Lolohea will probably play 25 mins. It's only a run out to earn club some pennies. Meaningless game.'"
It’s not meaningless as it’s worth winning just for bragging rights until the season proper starts. It’s not truly competitive but there is enough at stake to make it entertaininng.
What it isn’t is a guide to how either team will do in the future - you’re looking at individuals rather than the team.
Basically it’s an event and generally an enjoyable one.
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| Bragging rights???? Seriously????
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| WTF?
This is a meaningless game. Most definitely. 100%. If you were to rank games in the season in importance this game would be dead last.
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| Quote ="Him"WTF?
This is a meaningless game. Most definitely. 100%. If you were to rank games in the season in importance this game would be dead last.'"
Pre season friendlies aren't meaningless.
They are not SL games with points available for sure but they are important for building fitness and combinations. This is arguably our most important pre seaon for a number of years with a new coach and set up.
I don't buy the bragging rights rubbish. If you are claiming bragging rights from a bunch of semi fit squads with a bunch of academy lads then it shows how little you have to brag about. If pre season games were genuinely meaningless though they wouldn't happen.
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| Interesting to see Furner pick Liam Sutcliffe in the second row. I wonder if that's where Furner sees him being long term.
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| Quote ="Fallon"Pre season friendlies aren't meaningless.
They are not SL games with points available for sure but they are important for building fitness and combinations. This is arguably our most important pre seaon for a number of years with a new coach and set up.
I don't buy the bragging rights rubbish. If you are claiming bragging rights from a bunch of semi fit squads with a bunch of academy lads then it shows how little you have to brag about. If pre season games were genuinely meaningless though they wouldn't happen.'"
This isn’t a pre-season friendly though. Not really. If Christmas & Boxing Day weren’t public holidays with a tradition of playing on Boxing Day then this fixture wouldn’t exist. It would be left until
Much closer to the start of the season like all the other friendlies. It doesn’t benefit pre-season preparation. Half the squad will have barely trained, if at all.
This game is entirely meaningless.
Agree on the bragging rights. Anyone claiming bragging rights from a friendly is very much clutching at straws.
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| Since the end of winter rugby, the Boxing Day game has always been about getting some fresh air and seeing the friends rather than the family.
This year is no different, the players are incidental.
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