We didn't look too bad when we beat Hull and Wigan. Agreed things need a shake up.

One of our biggest issues at the start of the season was where would we find a quality goal kicker from. It seems we have a couple well on their way to being real quality.

So let's not through the baby out with the bath water.

A win is a win- but that performance for 50 minutes was dire. The turning point of the game was not due to our good play - it was the sin binning. Even with this , if not for a double movement when certain to score , we still would have been struggling.
This was the same Salford side that we beat 8-0 - clueless in attack / unable to hold the ball when attacking - very very poor.
But how easily virtually all night they made 50/60 meters with their 5 tackles.
It is same old faults every week - no line speed in defence - compare us to Warrington or Wigan - we are a joke. No structure - not a planned move in sight - no attempt to put our backs in space - we are yards faster than a team like Salford.
i do not want to watch this dross next season - I want to be entertained - win or lose.
We are now safe from relegation - we should act now - sack the coach & start recruiting for next season before all the descent players are gone and we are left with the Falloons of the game.

I am in Spain and wasn't at the game, who went to fullback when Sutcliffe went off? Moon, with lilley to SO?

two great wins in a season of, what, 25/26 games? it's been appalling, embarrassing and it's obvious the great side has gone. it's time to move on and start again

I was there and I don't agree as I don't judge games on 30 mins spells because they actually last 80 mins, or are some people just that desperate to call things cr@p they won't even wait for the half time hooter, let alone the half time one.

Like I said, nothing to write home about and not a great showing but again in reply post you say apart from Segeyaro, to say nothing has improved from earlier in year when we use to capitulate at the first sign of trouble is silly. Again that's not saying things are good now, you could say we've gone from a 1 out of 10 to maybe a 4 and we do still have a lot to improve on. At least we can actually make tackles now compared to the debacles like the Cas hammering at home.

It's ok saying "oh but Salford are a poor side, and so are HKR".....it was losing to the likes of those poor sides earlier in the year why we are here in the first place.

Watkins went to FB and Moon to centre - until IIRC Ward replaced Moon and Ablett went to centre.

Minutes 5-55 were complete dire and i was bored rigid as have been most of the season.
fear is winnng this last couple of months will paint a different picture and we paper over the cracks again recruitment wise.
unless we keep segeyaro and sign a replacement for mags i reckon mid-table 2017

Bang on.

I can't wait to watch the same rubbish next year with the added bonus of being crammed in like sardines while the south stand is redeveloped.

Wasn't there for this but i will repeat that imo changes are needed on/off the pitch we need fresh faces voices & ideas.

I also missed it, due to illness. The radio didn't make it sound half as bad as some are saying, but given the standard we've seen most of the season, I'll put it down to radio hyperbole.

It was a better game than the last one vs HKR. Not that that is saying much.

Great to see Ward back out there for you guys.

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doesn't matter mate. look at the stats them tell people who went they are wrong

At least the pitch stood up better than in the last game.