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| It's a dozy thread really given the fact we haven't even played Wigan yet.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"It's a dozy thread really given the fact we haven't even played Wigan yet.'"
As previously stated, the topic is fantasy competition relevant, with regards to transfers remaining in May. I can't wait until after the Wigan game to make these changes as the competition is locked out until Monday 1st June.
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| I wouldn't be resting players 'just because it's wakey' I'd be resting players bearing in mind the turn around before playing Cas on the Thursday.
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| Quite a few are basing their team selection for Wakey on Leuluai being back in action but that's not a given. Also whilst I hope they'll be fine for this weekend against Wigan, both Delaney and JJB still obviously have hamstring concerns. We haven't exactly got plenty left spare to come in after those.
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| I think he's right, FWIW.
The current season goes on too long and cuts down even further the rest, recovery and preparation time that elite players need in the off/pre season. If the intention is to keep the current structure of 30 regular season rounds, playoffs and Challenge Cup then a couple of say Friday-Wednesday-Sunday runs in a season is preferable to eating into the off-season by two weeks.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"I think he's right, FWIW.
The current season goes on too long and cuts down even further the rest, recovery and preparation time that elite players need in the off/pre season. If the intention is to keep the current structure of 30 regular season rounds, playoffs and Challenge Cup then a couple of say Friday-Wednesday-Sunday runs in a season is preferable to eating into the off-season by two weeks.'"
My ideal would be Easter weekend and the two bank holiday weekends in May. That would separate the season more.
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| Quote ="Middleton_Loiner"* Peacock should be rested. We don't want him running out of juice later on in the Season. Mulhern into the 17.
* Cuthbertson should be rested. He is being flogged at the minute. Yates into the 17.
* Singleton & Kylie starting Props.'"
In my opinion you can't have both Yates and Mulhern in the 17. It makes us too weak at prop. One of Peacock or Cuthbertson will have to play. In my view it should be Peacock, we don't have to worry about him beyond this season.
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| Quote ="Him"In my opinion you can't have both Yates and Mulhern in the 17. It makes us too weak at prop. One of Peacock or Cuthbertson will have to play. In my view it should be Peacock, we don't have to worry about him beyond this season.'" I think I could lineup at 10 against wakefield and it shouldn't make a difference to the result. A poor team with poor fitness in poor form with no confidence. If we don't comfortably win it is entirely down to our own lack of focus.
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| Why rest anybody this game is worth 2 points just like if you beat Wigan at their ground , why take the risk. With our first team out it is as near to a guaranteed 2 points as you can get.
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| Quote ="harmless idiot"Why rest anybody this game is worth 2 points just like if you beat Wigan at their ground , why take the risk. With our first team out it is as near to a guaranteed 2 points as you can get.'"
I totally agree.
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| Wakefield could be without a few more players for our game against them as big rumours of McShane to Salford, Hall to Hull KR, Godinet to St Helens.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Wakefield could be without a few more players for our game against them as big rumours of McShane to Salford, Hall to Hull KR, Godinet to St Helens.'"
I know of another, but thought it was from next season. Infact can't see any of them leaving before seasons out.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I know of another, but thought it was from next season. Infact can't see any of them leaving before seasons out.'"
If they do, then that's Wakefield effectively giving up on staying in SL and I can't see that happening.
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| For once I agree with glider.
It would be sheer ludicrous to allow 3 key players leave at this point with the position they're in, even if it was financially driven I very much doubt the value they'd receive for those players would total the income received by staying in SL.
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| Apparently, the players were told if they didn't want to be at the club then they could leave. L Peea took them up on the offer, as did a few others so I wouldn't be surprised if they left mid season.
Would anyone here sign any of them? Simon, Dan Smith? Kirke
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Apparently, the players were told if they didn't want to be at the club then they could leave. L Peea took them up on the offer, as did a few others so I wouldn't be surprised if they left mid season.'"
If they do that they won't be able to put a team out. Judging by some of the performances - the second half against Leigh for example - none of them looked like they wanted to be there!
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| Well, now we can legitimately talk about this
I'd rest at least one of JP and Cuthbertson, perhaps both. Hardaker if he's injured shouldn't play so I'd keep Handly on the wing. He made a couple of shocking decisions but he'll learn from them as he gains experience and improve his composure, I'm not sure he's a winger long term though, I reckon he'll probably end up in the centres.
I'd give Robbie Ward some game time and see how he goes off the bench in place of Burrow as well, but I doubt we'll see any changes unless they're forced through injury.
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| Sadly, I think you're right.
Barring injuries, it'll be the same 17 getting flogged again.
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| After the loss today we need every point going forward. I'll be disappointed if burrow is include next weekend. Hardaker injury could prove pivotal for us.
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| Quote ="Frosties."After the loss today we need every point going forward. I'll be disappointed if burrow is include next weekend. Hardaker injury could prove pivotal for us.'"
Sadly i agree....on all points.
The coach seems to be making the same mistakes as last season in not properly using his rotation forwards from the bench. Let's hope it's not a similar drop off to last season.
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| I'm worried about cuthbertson. He looks a shadow of the player he was at the start of the season. Is he shattered, or have people worked him out? He'd be first on my rest list. Why is singleton getting so few minutes too?
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| Quote ="The Eagle"I'm worried about cuthbertson. He looks a shadow of the player he was at the start of the season. Is he shattered, or have people worked him out? He'd be first on my rest list. Why is singleton getting so few minutes too?'"
For me it's a familiar story. The coach likes to flog his 'favourite' forwards to death while under utilising others. Fingers crossed it's not a repeat of last season although of course another CC win would be a fitting end to some careers.
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| I know we should win, and easily, but I for some reason have no confidence we will even beat Wakey next week.
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