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| Does this mean Andy Yates' chances of a new deal are all but over?
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| 94% tackle success rate for Mullally per Opta.
Of Leeds other props, only Peacock (95%) has a higher success rate.
Doesn't back up qualms about his defence.
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| i think he will be a good signing get not trying to knock gaints but when we got lunt on loan in our squad he played awesome but wasnt the same player when he went back playing in the gaints team. a good preseason and working with our conditioning coaches etc we could be a great signing. better than an over the hill journey man from nrl. another cuthbertson would be great though. still hope we sign a few more its not like we wont have room on the salary cap
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| Quote ="HAILESY"i think he will be a good signing get not trying to knock gaints but when we got lunt on loan in our squad he played awesome but wasnt the same player when he went back playing in the gaints team. a good preseason and working with our conditioning coaches etc we could be a great signing. better than an over the hill journey man from nrl. another cuthbertson would be great though. still hope we sign a few more its not like we wont have room on the salary cap'"
Yes, do those flaws about fitness and penalties speak more about Hudds than it does the player.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"I can't figure it out, how come not one of those "reliable" sources told anyone on here about this one?'"
I live next door to him and I didn't even know!
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"
well if your being like that its huddersfield
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| Quote ="HAILESY"well if your being like that its huddersfield
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| Quote ="Wheels"You're.'"
....and it's
It's easy: [iits[/i is the possesive;[i it's[/i only ever the abbreviation for it is
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| Quote ="Rommel"Ian Kirke Mk11'"
I'll bet that Mullally would settle for as many GF rings as Kirke won
and also for him to earn the right to be able to call the Saints his Grand Final Bitches just like Kirke can would top it off nicely i would have thought?
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| With this signing we have cuthbertson as the main prop. Singleton.
3 up and coming projects like mulhern mulally and baldwinson. A stopgap quality Paul Gallen wouldn't go a miss for a few years
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"94% tackle success rate for Mullally per Opta.
Of Leeds other props, only Peacock (95%) has a higher success rate.
Doesn't back up qualms about his defence.'"
If this opta measure was the definitive measure of defence then that would be true.
Mullally is often so far out of position that he cannot even attempt a tackle. In his first 5-10 minutes he also prone to enthusiastically jump out of the line and end up failing to make a tackle. A fair few of his tackles are the easier third man in variety. I think his number of carries and tackles is far lower than most props at Leeds.
The lad is keen and Leeds are a top club so there is a good chance he will move from being a project player to an established prop, but it will require plenty of work.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"94% tackle success rate for Mullally per Opta.
Of Leeds other props, only Peacock (95%) has a higher success rate.
Doesn't back up qualms about his defence.'"
94% tackle rate- from how many tackles? What that stat doesn't tell you is how many times he fails to even attempt one.
Here's an interesting stat for you. In the game against Leeds that you all said he was great in he made 5 tackles, and carried the ball 4 times. Yes he averaged about 10 metres a carry- those 4 carries got the team about 40 metres.
If an impact prop is what you are looking for then that's what you've got. But I don't think that's what you need for next season.
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| Quote ="jools"94% tackle rate- from how many tackles? What that stat doesn't tell you is how many times he fails to even attempt one.
Here's an interesting stat for you. In the game against Leeds that you all said he was great in he made 5 tackles, and carried the ball 4 times. Yes he averaged about 10 metres a carry- those 4 carries got the team about 40 metres.
If an impact prop is what you are looking for then that's what you've got. But I don't think that's what you need for next season.'"
How long was he on for? How many missed tackles or errors?
I remember him making a really good break towards the end of the first half but not much else TBH, although no one really stood out for Hudds last week did they?
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| Quote ="HAILESY"
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| I believe we should be making a move for David Shillington also.
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| Quote ="Rommel"Ian Kirke Mk11'"
Rommel, if he is Kirke Mk11, who were MK2 to MK10 ?
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| As with all signings, depends on what we are paying out on his contract. On balance looks like a sensible gamble.
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| Reckon business for next year looks like:
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Jamie Peacock (ret)
Kylie Leuluai (ret)
Kevin Sinfield (Leeds Carnegie RU)
Chris Clarkson (Widnes)
Jimmy Keinhorst (rel)
Alex Foster (rel)
Thomas Minns (rel)
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Anthony Mullally (Huddersfield)
Jordan Baldwinson (Loan Return)
Elliott Minchella (Loan Return)
A.N. Other (Prop Forward)
Which will leave us looking something like this for 2016:
1. Hardaker
2. Briscoe
3. Watkins
4. Moon
5. Hall
6. McGuire
7. Burrow
8. Cuthbertson
9. Aiton
10. Other
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| Quote ="Worlds Apart"Reckon business for next year looks like:
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Kylie Leuluai (ret)
Kevin Sinfield (Leeds Carnegie RU)
Chris Clarkson (Widnes)
Jimmy Keinhorst (rel)
Alex Foster (rel)
Thomas Minns (rel)
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Anthony Mullally (Huddersfield)
Jordan Baldwinson (Loan Return)
Elliott Minchella (Loan Return)
A.N. Other (Prop Forward)
Which will leave us looking something like this for 2016:
1. Hardaker
2. Briscoe
3. Watkins
4. Moon
5. Hall
6. McGuire
7. Burrow
8. Cuthbertson
9. Aiton
10. Other
11. Jones-Buchanan
12. Ablett
13. Ward S
14. Ward R
15. Delaney
16. Achurch
17. Mullally
18. Sutcliffe
19. Singleton
20. Handley
21. Walters
22. Yates
23. Minchella
24. Baldwinson
25. Mulhern'"
would be supprised if Yates is still with us for,very much longer, IMO he doesn't look like he will make it at this level with leeds
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| If he's happy to stick around on a low salary, I wouldn't mind keeping Keinhorst as threequarter cover.
Not convinced that any of the current 19s wings or centres are likely to get to the required standard over the next 12 months, and we're a bit threadbare otherwise.
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| I'd also like Keinhorst to stay. Done his bit when he's been needed and hasn't let anyone down IMO.
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| Agree re Keinhorst. A better option than moving Ablett to centre in my opinion. As said if he's happy to play mostly at Hunslet with the odd game for Leeds I'd be happy to keep him.
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| This year we've got 5 players (Sinfield McGuire, Aiton, Burrow, Sutcliffe) plus Robbie Ward to cover 4 positions (6,7,9,14).
Next year we'll have 4 plus Ward. That's not enough. Still need another Hooker/Half.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"This year we've got 5 players (Sinfield McGuire, Aiton, Burrow, Sutcliffe) plus Robbie Ward to cover 4 positions (6,7,9,14).
Next year we'll have 4 plus Ward. That's not enough. Still need another Hooker/Half.'"
I don't think we necessarily need another half or hooker for next year as I don't think we actually need a hooker on the bench if one or 2 of them were injured. I think Aiton can play 80 mins.
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