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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"
In business terms, if the RFL can afford to cheese off a 'loyal' customer like me, then gawd help retaining the more fickle fans.'"
If you think that any club, or the RFL hold any sort of "value" to a "loyal" supporter then this is your wake up call, many of us woke up years ago but welcome anyway.
Its not the club's fault, only other than that the CEO of each club ARE the RFL and follow the Sky instructions to the letter as without their money there would be no RFL - and thats it in a nutshell, selling your organisation to another business for such a sum that your are totally reliant on the other organisation for your future operating (period) is always a bad business move but as we all know the RFL had no other option on the table when Mo the Bookie signed the company over to Murdoch and his subsequent colleagues have had no other option at the renewals either.
I haven't had a Sky subscription for several years now and as a result hardly watch any TV sport at all, any sport who sells their soul to a pay-to-watch organisation deserves to limit their appeal to only those who will pay-to-watch and thats exactly what we now see with the RFL with the game of professional rugby league having moved forward not one inch since Mo the Bookies time - and the money all spent too.
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"I'll continue to watch Leeds at home (which even that has diminished as a social occasion with the demolition of the Supporters Club, only to be replaced with the opportunity to stand around on sub zero tarmac fending off hypothermia as an alternative).'"
A worse decision than anything Sky could come up with.
And as the previous poster says, the game is absolutely stuffed without Sky's money. It's that simple.
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| Quote ="Invincible"
It wasn't. I paid for 4 train tickets, all in first class.
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| in all seriousness, I was told today that its 10 pound to change per ticket. Then you've also got to pay the difference.
Might still go, or just cut them up if no one wants them.
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| Quote ="Invincible"in all seriousness, I was told today that its 10 pound to change per ticket. Then you've also got to pay the difference.
Might still go, or just cut them up if no one wants them.'"
going to cost me a extra £55 to transfer my tickets
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| Can't you eBay the tickets ?
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| Quote ="rhinos21"Can't you eBay the tickets ?'"
No, you can't .... Selling train tickets is against Ebay's T & Cs
If you put something on, they remove it pretty much straightaway. I suppose there is logic, say someone buying up all the cheap train tickets the morning they become available for say the FA Cup Final and then touting them on Ebay for a profit as everyone clambers for them later.
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| Maybe one for TVOC :
- Record lowest SL crowd any fixture ?
- Record lowest London Vs Leeds crowd ?
If a lot of the fans who have been messed around don't go, you could be looking at something like 1500 there.
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| You could try twitter AH or Free ads???
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| Quote ="rhinoms"You could try twitter AH or Free ads???'"
Or invoice Portly Nigel via RFL HQ ...
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| The game is very dependent upon the Sky money and Sky know this. Nothing that can be done about it. However, the relationship is inequitable. Sky don't promote the game enough and don't pay the going rate for the second best viewed sport they show.
The RFL need to press Sky hard for a bigger commitment next time the contract is up and should be speaking to BT sport now.
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| I know it's inconvenient and, indeed, poorly managed. But there is an entertaining lack of proportion contained in this thread.
London away gets moved = never going to another game away from Headingley, ever. OK then. See ya
Rugby League, like every other major sport, is reliant on pay TV funding. These relationships are always tangled but they are also essential, like it or not. There has to be give and take though and Sky shouldn't really be moving games which have already effectively been moved once for TV.
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"No, you can't .... Selling train tickets is against Ebay's T & Cs
If you put something on, they remove it pretty much straightaway. I suppose there is logic, say someone buying up all the cheap train tickets the morning they become available for say the FA Cup Final and then touting them on Ebay for a profit as everyone clambers for them later.'"
Fair enough. The restrictions on train tickets make it difficult for me to choose it over the car.
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| As a side issue, Sky are now showing this SL game at exactly the same time as the Championship game on Premier Sports scheduled for that evening. So 2 games of RL on at the same time on different channels.
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"No, you can't .... Selling train tickets is against Ebay's T & Cs
If you put something on, they remove it pretty much straightaway. I suppose there is logic, say someone buying up all the cheap train tickets the morning they become available for say the FA Cup Final and then touting them on Ebay for a profit as everyone clambers for them later.'"
I'm sure they don't do the same for tickets of the actual events though so there seems a bit of a disconnect there. How annoying
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| Quote ="MjM"I know it's inconvenient and, indeed, poorly managed. But there is an entertaining lack of proportion contained in this thread.
London away gets moved = never going to another game away from Headingley, ever. OK then. See ya
Rugby League, like every other major sport, is reliant on pay TV funding. These relationships are always tangled but they are also essential, like it or not. There has to be give and take though and Sky shouldn't really be moving games which have already effectively been moved once for TV.'"
This is not the first time that the London away fixture in particular has been messed about with ... They did something similar a couple of years ago.
As has been pointed out, let's have a bit of a sliding scale .... Catalans games (remember the London fans half way back to the airport, because their game had been rearranged) should pretty much be played on the date they're advertised at. London games, moved at say 10 - 12 weeks notice, inter county games say 4-6 weeks notice and local games say 2 weeks maximum. That way the broadcaster is able to show what they want, when they want and the fans know where they stand in terms of booking something outside those timescales.
It's not just the fact that this game has moved, it's effectively the straw that has broken the camel's back and I have been feeling increasingly disillusioned with aspects of the game for a while.
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| For me it was an annoying fixture date anyway and it's been moved to a more annoying fixture date
Overall it's just annoying
That annoying enough for you?
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| You need to read a fantastic letter published in this weeks League Express on this very subject. The guy who wrote it... genius.
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| Sky need only give a minimum of 18 days notice apparently, according to today's YEP article. Not really good enough, IMO.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Sky need only give a minimum of 18 days notice apparently, according to today's YEP article. Not really good enough, IMO.'"
Fine if you're going to Wakey .... Rubbish if you're going to France
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"You need to read a fantastic letter published in this weeks League Express on this very subject. The guy who wrote it... genius.'"
T'was a great letter and before you ask ... It wasn't me
It appears there's lot of hacked off Loiners with useless train tickets out there ... Personally, I have billed Portly Nigel at RFL HQ and we'll see how that goes.
Let's also consider that it could have easily been the London fans messed about on one of their away trips too... We perhaps need as a sport to sit down and come up with a better / fairer system, one that everyone is aware of and perhaps published / advertised by the RFL.
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