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| Quote ="tvoc"Just a few of the comments around the time of player and club parting ways July 2011:'"
All those comments are still true of this man, and some people have a very warped memory of Keith Senior. With his rest period and his wellingness to prove doubts wrong, I think he is worth a punt.
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| Quote ="Middleton_Loiner"All those comments are still true of this man, and some people have a very warped memory of Keith Senior. With his rest period and his wellingness to prove doubts wrong, I think he is worth a punt.'"
I'd say most of those comments are true but I'd seriously dispute some of Iestyn's, especially ''still at the top of his game''. You would have to have missed a hell of a lot of performances in his last couple of seasons to seriously believe that...unless of course you had just picked him up as a marquee signing for a club with little else to offer and on the verge of superleague suicide.
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| Quote ="Middleton_Loiner"All those comments are still true of this man, and some people have a very warped memory of Keith Senior. With his rest period and his wellingness to prove doubts wrong, I think he is worth a punt.'"
Geez...can't believe this trying to turn back the clock. Put the sentiment and judgement clouding cosy memories aside....if Senior had been a Wigan player instead of Leeds' player would you sign him up under the present circumstances ?? Quite rightly I think anybody suggesting such a thing would have been universally mocked.
I'm with Tad (make Ablett the left centre) Gotcha and Rhinoms (maybe give Keinhorst an opportunity first).
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| Sure there is a little sentiment in my thinking re-Senior but unlike others I haven't written him off and I'd like to see whether or not the twelve months break has put a few more miles back in to the tank or not.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Sure there is a little sentiment in my thinking re-Senior but unlike others I haven't written him off and I'd like to see whether or not the twelve months break has put a few more miles back in to the tank or not.'"
You might be right....but is the club really in [isuch[/i dire straits on its first choice options that it would seriously consider such a move ? Poor showing really, if so.
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| Senior may be worth a pay as you play deal, however, he shouldn't be in our 17 IMO.
Ablett should be our centre, and I personally think he is technically the best centre at the club, he just happens to be even better in the back row. If we did sign Senior, it'd be as cover for Ablett.
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| TVOC he hasn't just had a 12month rest mate he's also had a knackered knee to add to the already creaking body.
Senior is a complete Legend but so is Barrie Mc imo and i wouldn't re-sign Barrie either time to move on.
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| Quote ="The Eagle"Ablett should be our centre, and I personally think he is technically the best centre at the club, he just happens to be even better in the back row. If we did sign Senior, it'd be as cover for Ablett.'"
Ablett doesn't like playing Centre and after a while this shows imho. Senior would not be making himself available to play if he wasn't fit. Peacock came back from a bad Knee Injury. Why not Senior?
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| Quote ="rhinoms"TVOC he hasn't just had a 12month rest mate he's also had a knackered knee to add to the already creaking body.
Senior is a complete Legend but so is Barrie Mc imo and i wouldn't re-sign Barrie either time to move on.'"
Keith Senior and Barrie Mc are different kettle of fish and you know it. Senior can still play at the top, mark my words.
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| Is he still banging on about Senior?
Are you is agent or something? you must have something to gain from him playing. Nobody can be that naive about him to not have something to gain.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Is he still banging on about Senior?
Are you is agent or something? you must have something to gain from him playing. Nobody can be that naive about him to not have something to gain.'"
Not his Agent but if I was he would be playing for the Rhinos in a month or so, proving the doubter, i.e. you, wrong.
I'm buying him a pint if he signs on the dotted line, true story.
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| My hero worshipping feet feel well and truly stamped all over.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"My hero worshipping feet feel well and truly stamped all over.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"My hero worshipping feet feel well and truly stamped all over.
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He "likes Bails too" .....I'd be very very worried if I was you, although the hero worship will probably increase when Bailey is in his bathchair. You might have moved on by then ?
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Like the Vulcan IF he does manage to take off he will only ever be on cruise mode
(I remember the recent antithesis of the Vulcan scenario with the Victor - beautiful aircraft: over eager to take off despite [unot[/u getting airworthy status)
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Like the Vulcan IF he does manage to take off he will only ever be on cruise mode
(I remember the recent antithesis of the Vulcan scenario with the Victor - beautiful aircraft: over eager to take off despite [unot[/u getting airworthy status)
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"He "likes Bails too" .....I'd be very very worried if I was you, although the hero worship will probably increase when Bailey is in his bathchair. You might have moved on by then ?
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Logan's Run? More like Nantwich's Run! 36 is hardly one foot in the grave hahaha.
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| Quote ="Middleton_Loiner"Quote ="The Eagle"Ablett should be our centre, and I personally think he is technically the best centre at the club, he just happens to be even better in the back row. If we did sign Senior, it'd be as cover for Ablett.'"
Ablett doesn't like playing Centre and after a while this shows imho. Senior would not be making himself available to play if he wasn't fit. Peacock came back from a bad Knee Injury. Why not Senior?'"
I've not seen this said anywhere before. Also, I don't think it has shown in the past. He's won 2 GFs playing at centre after a prolonged period there, so I don't think your argument stacks up.
Also, its not up to the player where he plays. Its up to the coach, and he is in the best place to decide where a player is best utilised. Recent examples include Roby starting out as scrum half & Tom[pkins starting off as a 6. they were moved from their preferred position for one reason or another and have reaped the benefits both personally, and as part of their team. I think if Leeds committed to playing Ablett at centre, with the lack of english talent in that area it could be a great opportunity to get some international caps, which would be harder to come by in a pretty competitive looking England back row
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| Quote ="The Eagle"I've not seen this said anywhere before. Also, I don't think it has shown in the past. He's won 2 GFs playing at centre after a prolonged period there, so I don't think your argument stacks up.
Also, its not up to the player where he plays. Its up to the coach, and he is in the best place to decide where a player is best utilised. Recent examples include Roby starting out as scrum half & Tom[pkins starting off as a 6. they were moved from their preferred position for one reason or another and have reaped the benefits both personally, and as part of their team. I think if Leeds committed to playing Ablett at centre, with the lack of english talent in that area it could be a great opportunity to get some international caps, which would be harder to come by in a pretty competitive looking England back row'"
The players closest him have mentioned it in the past.
Some people have cited a defensive weakness in Keith Seniors Game. Sometimes this can be a weakness of Ablett in the Centres.
Taking away from the Pack to improve the Three Quarter Line only serves to weaken the Pack even more. Something, imho, we can't afford to do at this present moment in time.
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| Quote ="Middleton_Loiner"The players closest him have mentioned it in the past.
Some people have cited a defensive weakness in Keith Seniors Game. Sometimes this can be a weakness of Ablett in the Centres.
Taking away from the Pack to improve the Three Quarter Line only serves to weaken the Pack even more. Something, imho, we can't afford to do at this present moment in time.'"
if burrow starts on the bench so the pack has 6 forwards it shouldnt be such an issue
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| Quote ="Middleton_Loiner"Quote ="The Eagle"I've not seen this said anywhere before. Also, I don't think it has shown in the past. He's won 2 GFs playing at centre after a prolonged period there, so I don't think your argument stacks up.
Also, its not up to the player where he plays. Its up to the coach, and he is in the best place to decide where a player is best utilised. Recent examples include Roby starting out as scrum half & Tom[pkins starting off as a 6. they were moved from their preferred position for one reason or another and have reaped the benefits both personally, and as part of their team. I think if Leeds committed to playing Ablett at centre, with the lack of english talent in that area it could be a great opportunity to get some international caps, which would be harder to come by in a pretty competitive looking England back row'"
The players closest him have mentioned it in the past.
Some people have cited a defensive weakness in Keith Seniors Game. Sometimes this can be a weakness of Ablett in the Centres.
Taking away from the Pack to improve the Three Quarter Line only serves to weaken the Pack even more. Something, imho, we can't afford to do at this present moment in time.'"
I think replacing Ablett with one of Griffin, Clarkson, Kirke, Singleton has less impact on the team than having an untried, unready youngster at centre. I think Smith is a reasonable option there too
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| Quote ="The Eagle"I think replacing Ablett with one of Griffin, Clarkson, Kirke, Singleton has less impact on the team than having an untried, unready youngster at centre. I think Smith is a reasonable option there too'"
I'm not saying put an Untried, Not Ready Youngster at Centre. I'm saying put a Tried and Tested Old Stager...the elder Statesman of Super League.....The Best Centre Leeds has signed in the Super League era.......Keith Senior.
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