Not really in sport. If we fell drastically below competing. RE out of top 8 I personally wouldnt be happy with keeping mcdermott in charge. Look at football how many top managers would keep there job if they dropped out of regular champions league football.

I dont think we will so it isnt going to be a issue but not qualifying for the playoff would i imagine not be acceptable to the board.

Not in real life either. but real life is different to sport. If when I employ a manager to my business and performace dropped that drastically i would be issuing performance plans and looking to get rid.

agree in that we cant say your out if you dont win a trophy but equally we cant blindly stand by him if the fall from grace is dramatic (re out of the top 8. Dont think that will happen)

agreed

The 1st port of call should be the acadamy Loz then the NRL then SL unless of course someone of Ali's (when we 1st signed him) calibre is available straight away then i'd go for it.
Already we can see Watkins for Senior ,Bjb for Webb (eventually),Delaney to the SR with either Smithy or A another taking the RC spot.
Pack Wise we need to look at getting Ambler ,Singleton and Amor in form permitting and eventually Buderus will be replaced by Mcshane and Hood.
That's before youngsters like Chisholm ,Ward ,Stewart and Wilson get theri chance at SL level.

Although it looks unlikely, I see no reason to rule out silverware yet - I'm sure the players haven't! Even if Wigan give us a spanking on Friday...

To be sacked after his first season, McDermott would have to be pretty bad IMO - finishing in 6th or lower, and failing to make any dent in either of the domestic competitions would be possible tipping points. But he really can only be judged in the context of a full season in charge.

As for Bennett - 99.9% sure it won't happen! Not really a Leeds style appointment anyway.

I have to say I'm surprised a MDermott out thread hasn't appeared just yet.

I was talking with my old man on Sunday about McDermotts tenure. At the moment I'm really not impressed with the way the team are playing. The amount of ball being put down is shocking. However I can't attribute that on coaching or players. As for the few people I've heard at games questioning Brians job, my response is what on earth will we achieve sacking him mid season only to replace him with what exactly?

I think the best approach will be to re-evaluate come the end of the season. If the right coach is then available we'd be daft not to take them on board. As for Wayne Bennett if he is interested to come to Leeds I think we'd be bloody daft not to offer him a contract. And to be frank I wouldn't be surprised if Brian wouldn't be happy enough to become Waynes assistant if it was to happen. However I can only see Bennett going back to Brisbane come the end of the season

First Bennett to any sl team Is a total fooooking joke on an epic scale!

Second IF Bennett and or belly ache were at Leeds of course they could get our squad to win trophies! If madge can get that bunch of average joes(coley, Carmont, goulding, Roberts, Richards, feka, bailey ,hanson, mcalourum(sp) Prescott, Joel tomkin, Gleeson , Fielden, riddel, pryce, tuson ,deacon and a few good kids winning sl a good coach and a bit of raw talent is all you need!

Prior to madge arriving they were bobbins more often than not.

We desperately need to review half back alternatives - and I would suggest an organising scrum half from the NRL should be the first requirement. We also need an experianced nine to help McShane for one more season - Hood is a tremendous prospect but he is still very young.

Agreed, it would be pointless sacking him mid season and no matter how bad things get it won't happen.




I wouldn't go that far. But I would agree that it is unlikely. If my money was anywhere sure it would be down on him staying in Oz. But nobody knows what he is thinking. If he does stay down under what posibly could be a new challenge for him? If it wasn't for that sentance then I wouldn't even mention SL and Bennett under the same breath. Stranger things have happened thats for sure!!



100% agree, If Maguire can do that then Bennett will make Leeds an almighty side.

If McD gets us to 4th/5th and a decent cup run but playing good rugby in both defence and attack then it would have been a satisfactory 1st year. If we have not reached that standard then a review should take place as to whether it is the players or the coach that need replacing.
I think that GH and Brian Mac are both in it for the long haul and it may take up to 2 seasons to up grade the squad. Then we can look at a season without silverware as disappointing.

I would be interested in TVOC providing details of all players whose contract is up in the next 2yrs as I think it might point to the above being a realistic scenario.

Bennett has a son who has(I dont know what's pc so I mean no offence) a disability. Plus he's 61 and has just had a key family member pass away.

The biggest thing is no Aussie coach has won 3 titles with 3 clubs. I think this will stop it happening.

Madge did yo Wigan what belly ache does with all his teams. Gets the average joes doing a job and out of the way so the key players can win the games. Very simple but very effective coaching! Plus the full on strangle the life out of the game defence. Love it or hate it it works. I respect madge and the Melbourne way(bellamy way). It's a system that wins games and titles.

He's got two, a son who suffered brain damage as an infant and a daughter who has arthrogryposis.

He's not likely to drag them halfway across the world or leave them in Australia while he comes over here to work, based on previous interviews I've read his family seem to come first with work a distant second.

Sack the board

can't believe we're even having a discussion so early into the sl season regarding brian mcdermott?


surely all knee jerking should be left to much later in the season should it not?


regarding wayne bennett coaching the rhinos,are you serious?

Super League is a 5 team competition at best along with 9 no-hopers.

Leeds are one of those 5 teams.

Yet there's sundry Leeds fans on this thread who deem a 4th/5th place finish in SL and a CC Semi as acceptable this season?

Deary, deary me



That is tantamount to finishing LAST (or close to last) in both competitions.

Get a grip!

If that were to happen, the coaching team along with half the squad shouldn't be at the club next season.

Quote ="Rhino Bucs"I would be interested in TVOC providing details of all players whose contract is up in the next 2yrs '" I could do that but it's easier for me to point anyone that's interested to Frosties thread here: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=472965 he usually keeps it pretty much up to date.

Quote ="Rhino Bucs"I would be interested in TVOC providing details of all players whose contract is up in the next 2yrs '" I could do that but it's easier for me to point anyone that's interested to Frosties thread here: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=472965 he usually keeps it pretty much up to date.

We seem to have found a quality 6 at long last.

Boooooo! Boooooooo! Burn him!!!

That is correct.

[url=http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/wayne-bennetts-secret-fund/story-e6frep5x-1111115066538Wayne's children have always come first[/url

I'll bite.

Surely if this is a 5 team competition then finishing within the top 5 is acceptable? All 5 clubs can't win something. Perhaps it is not acceptable for some, but given the players and coaching staff available for Leeds this season I don't see how it is realistic for us to be seen as favourites for any silverware (at least the way we are playing). If Leeds continue to not make much of a mark within the 5 clubs then perhaps some indication of clearing the dead wood in the team and making new signings in the coming weeks/months would be a positive sign that the coaching staff have long-term solutions, assuming they are unable to correct them in the short term.

Hehe! He always gets somebody to bite.

I think Keith's point (which as much as I don't agree with, is actually very hard to argue with!) is that if it's a 5 team competition, then 5th = Last.

Fair enough. I doubt anything would happen with McDermott for next season even if we finished below 5th or outside the top 8, no matter what the fans think about him. Look how long it took Bradford to get rid of McNamara. I suspect Leeds are a bit more like the Bulls on coaching appointments than we are like Wigan, for example.

Anyway - still too early to judge Brian and I hope he does prove the naysayers wrong.

Told you it was hard to argue with!!





FWIW, I agree, and I'm glad. Hope he's given a decent chance.

Even Dean Lance got three seasons...

Was that entirely an on-field performance issue though? The Sterling fiasco must have played a role.

Aside from the start and end of the season he took us on a very long winning run (13 on the bounce) that most fans seem to forget.

There is always one exception, so it seems