Why is it?

It sparks rugby discussion. Would you rather discourage rugby discussion?

sack a coach because he hasn't won a trophy?!

really?

Given that some fans are bemoaning our style of play the failure of the 2 hooker system to run smoothly and the countless talk of unrest behind the scenes plus players and coaches departing i think it's a valid topic.
Now of course like every poster you have an opinion and that is fair enough but the topic seems to have sparked decent debate.

Where is that mentioned?
Like i said Loz it's a valid subject given where we are and the way some fans feel.

He didn't say that though did he Loz? He posed a valid question and hinted at other rumours. If those rumours are true then his position should and could be under threat.

We don't know if they are though.

This seems a common theme at Headingley with "Player unrest" with the coaches, there is two ways to look at this, either the players at Headingley are given a "dont respect the boss" attitude that is maybye a culture at the club or we are simply employing the wrong sort of coaches

For me I think with most companys that operate in todays world there is a turnover of staff, now this can be for many reasons, want to aim higher, fresh challenge or unhappyness. You cant deny that rugby clubs go through the same

Sorry my bad to rhinoms bit of Gotcha style "fog knitting" and me trying to also raise a matter kind of got lost in translation

If you was Darth at the moment, would you be calling in Bluey for a little chat?

Now why did'nt you post this as your opinion rather than have a pop at the subject?
The reason i mentioned the rumours is because there are many different people i have spoke to hearing the same things ,of course we have the usual stuff when we are in poor form or lose a big game but these imo are very different and i hope they are'nt as bad as made out or at least if they are then i hope it's sorted asap.
Then we have Brian Mc returning to be a no2 when it's expected he will be the head honcho come 2012 which makes the recruitment/retention for next season and squad harmony even more important.

I would be hoping i wouldn't have to tbh mate like you and many have pointed out we've had a terrible year with injuries and the 3-in-a-row has caught up to us.
I think whatever the outcome i trust/hope GH has it sorted.

I see yer point mate in a business sense but surely if you are a 1st team coach of a sports team you don't want the CEO or Chairman telling you how we should play and what methods to use.

If I was Darth I would want to know exactly what Blueys plans for 2012 are now (not to say he doesn't already). You have to think if Bluey goes to an Aussie club will he look at trying to take some of the lads or staff with him? I'm not suggesting Bluey is the sort of bloke to do that but you have to remember some of the lads have said he puts passion into the team etc

For me already my expectations for 2011 are not majorly high as I do expect some of the "kids" to be drafted more into the side etc

As for Brian Mc, I do think it will be intresting to see how he settles into a "number 2" job rather than Head Coach....

If we have a look at GH track record of sacking coaches, Bluey shouldn't have to worry at all IMO

I voted for he should stay and see out his contract.

However I also see and respect TVOC's point in that if Mac is taking over the reigns in 2012 and isn't the kind of character to sit back and just 'observe' and help out on the training field then isn't Bluey a 'dead man walking anyway' especially if all the staff know who the boss is going to be in 2012?

Lets hope for the sake of the club getting back on track next year that Bluey and Mac can get a great working relationship going next season.

Put it this way,if next season starts as bad as this then how long into next season will it be before people on here are posting that its all down to a frosty relationship between our two 'head' coaches?

He said darth rhinoms.

If he did call McClennan in you'd be going in there to fight GH, you're the rl jedi master.

what we have to remember as well guys is other teams have caught up with our way of thinking and playing....

Sack him and bring back Dean Lance

I'd say that of all the club chairmen in our game GH is the most "businesslike". He treats most aspects of the operation as a business so I see no real reason why he would treat the head coach any differently.

Just for clarity, I'm not advocating that GH tells BMC exactly how to coach the team, more gives him instruction that he wants to see more structure to the play, particularly with the ball.

I agree there is no point in McClennan hanging around....a bit like the lame duck president situation but constitutionally here he doesn't have to stay.

I guess they the club doesn't want to sack him, but the hint is there and if I was him I would be seeking another job in the employer secretly-hoping -despite-giving-token-support scenario.

Or maybe its complete bollacks emanating from the gossiping tap rooms of the borough who need an excuse for what they perceive as a failed season ?

Pop into any warehouse in the district and ask a random sample of heavy box lifters whether or not they like their boss - you might not be surprised by their replies.

Hammer....nail....head Mcfieldy. I was gobsmacked to hear my nick was Billy the Bastard! Ungrateful shoites!

It always raises a smile that posters here are quick to castigate other fans for their repitition of TMFMISL's reputation, yet are happy to spout off as cast iron fact something equally as daft regarding the Rhino's dressing room.

GH is aware of the mood at the club, surely, and if the 'unrest' was causing problems I'm pretty sure he would want it sorting. If he is not sacking people he obviously feels the situation is rectifiable and can recognise that there has been enormous pressure due to recent successes. The squad wasn't used to losing and this will cause problems with relationships.

I was never a great fan of Bluey, but with the two GF wins he has eased my original concerns. I agree with a number of posters on here that the team seems to have a lack of structure in attack and this has been highlighted by the recent injury to Danny. I hope that the double act of Bluey and Brian Mac can provide a team that is highly motivated AND well drilled. This working relationship will also lead to a smoother transition leading up to 2012, if Brian Mac is taking over as expected. The players will have an immeadiate grasp of what he is expecting and how he wants them to play.

If we can use next year to blood some youngsters as well as settling in a few new faces the future could be very rosy.

I very much doubt you'll see that much difference in the style of play for 2011, it will still be McLennan's team to run and he'll want to live or die by his own methods rather than some compromised hybrid between him and McDermott's theories.

If the rumours are correct and he has lost the dressing room then I would agree and let him go now.

Sometime coaches don't get enough credit but I think many posters are giving Bluey too much credit for our recent silverrware. Firstly he inherited a champion team that were settled over several years with a winning formula. Therefore I would argue that it was this same team that deserve most of the credit for continuing to win rather than something new that this coach brought in.

In fact IMO he underprepared the team at the start of the last 2 seasons including 2 WCC defeats. Under McClennan the standard of rugby has declined, the entertainment value has declined, the discipline has declined, the support has declined. But my main concern has been that the game plan he persists with does not best use the talents in the squad.

If indeed the players are unhappy we the coach this is serious and may not go away, so the management has to listen and make a judgement.

The teams performances in 2005, 2006 and most of 2007 do not support that argument. Furthermore, having a side that is talented and settled is a world away from winning enough games to take the hub cap. It simply could not have happended without some input from the coach.

Did you actually read his post? I only ask because your first sentence would suggest you didn't. He actually clearly said last 2 seasons, which is 2009, and 2010.