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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I would have stopped after the 1st time
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Sam Moa gave them good go forward.'"
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| Quote ="Ronzy"And the fact that were so poor down our defensive right side is all the more inexcusable given your less than accurate statistic.'"
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"sorry who are you?'"
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| This is a scenario not unlike the early parts of last season. Some sublime attacking play when we click and some ordinary defence - especially on the goaline. There were a few shoot outs last year. Things tightened up later in the season as the focus grew towards the business end, the difference this year is that we can't afford to be slack and drop too many more points. We have to tighten up now, not in July. I'm sure Bluey is aware of this, but it's still a warning to the rest of SL that we can go out and stick nearly 50 on Hull.
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| No Berrigan for Hull, suspected broken collar bone from yesterdays game. Ouch.
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| I think that happened after trying to tackle Smith early on in the game.
FWIW I came away dissapointed with our defence.
Hull I feel may take some positives out of this game considering they will have 3 or 4 better players to draft into their team.
We will go with what we had on Sunday.
Was it 8 tries to 6 in the end to us?
I still think we have the CC as our main target this year.
Lets face it we wont win the hubcap or finish in the top 2.
So a top 5 finish and the CC are realistically all we can hope for.
Would we class that as a good season?
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| Quote ="chapylad"I think that happened after trying to tackle Smith early on in the game.
FWIW I came away dissapointed with our defence.
Hull I feel may take some positives out of this game considering they will have 3 or 4 better players to draft into their team.
We will go with what we had on Sunday.
Was it 8 tries to 6 in the end to us?
I still think we have the CC as our main target this year.
Lets face it we wont win the hubcap or finish in the top 2.
So a top 5 finish and the CC are realistically all we can hope for.
Would we class that as a good season?'"
Winning 1 trophy out of the main 2 available would be classed as a good season definately imo.
We could/should have at least 1 player back this week Bluey was saying after the match so i guess it could be Peacock who would make a big difference to us also.
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| I don't see why Leeds shouldn't be focusing on winning both?? Like they say they have done every season.
The 5 out of 6 points we have recently picked up gets us back in the race. And a top 2/3 finish is still not out of the question.
There's plenty of games for wins and form to be won and lost for every team!
Let's back the boys and have faith in a team that has been faultless in coming away with the ultimate prize for the last 3 seasons. They know where they need to be in terms of performance and execution and that is still in reach IMO.
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| Quote ="chapylad"We will go with what we had on Sunday.'"
Thought it was rumoured that Peacock and Eastwood are back for Sunday?
Quote ="chapylad"I still think we have the CC as our main target this year.
Lets face it we wont win the hubcap or finish in the top 2.
So a top 5 finish and the CC are realistically all we can hope for.'"
So you are suggesting we can not win the GF due to a finishing position not known yet?
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| Leeds will win on Saturday, Hull ain't got the minerals in big games, Leeds have.
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"Leeds will win on Saturday, Hull ain't got the minerals in big games, Leeds have.'"
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| Hull were missing Richard Horne, Sean Long, Craig Fitzgibbon, Danny Tickle, Mark Calderwood and they also lost Shaun Berrigan early in the game.
Leeds were missing Scott Donald (not an automatic selection), Jamie Peacock and Greg Eastwood by comparison.
I expect it'll be a different Hull side Leeds will be facing next week in the one that counts.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Thought it was rumoured that Peacock and Eastwood are back for Sunday?
So you are suggesting we can not win the GF due to a finishing position not known yet?'"
No not at all.
What I am saying is realistically we would find it hard to win the GF from outside the top 3 which I personally do not think we will make and reach the CC Final.
It is certainly not beyond us but would be a very hard ask.
Me personally? I would rather win the GF again even if it means missing out on the CC.
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| Leeds only need to finish in the top 4 to stand a good chance of retaining the title.
That is still more than acheivable.
Initially i thought it'd be best if hull knocked us out, then we could get the free weekends and put all our focus into the title....but then we continued to drop points in the league. Now I think we need to stay in contention for both as long as possible to give ourselves the best chance of silverware. You never know we could hit serious form at the crucial time and scoop both trophies up in a smash and grab.
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| Now that I like.
You would have to change your user name though Back to Back to Back
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| Quote ="tvoc"Hull were missing Richard Horne, Sean Long, Craig Fitzgibbon, Danny Tickle, Mark Calderwood and they also lost Shaun Berrigan early in the game..'"
And yet they were still good enough to put 30 points on Leeds despite having makeshift half-backs.
If Horne and Long are both back for Saturday Leeds are going to have to learn to defend significantly better than they have for the last three games.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"If Horne and Long are both back for Saturday Leeds are going to have to learn to defend significantly better than they have for the last three games.'"
But only for 20 minutes of the game. At least that is what I was told.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"And yet they were still good enough to put 30 points on Leeds despite having makeshift half-backs.
If Horne and Long are both back for Saturday Leeds are going to have to learn to defend significantly better than they have for the last three games.'"
Absolutely agree.
I thought at the start of the game we were making a much greater effort to get 3 men into the tackle but as fatigue & complacency set in we dropped off from that hence the couple of penalties that Sinfield conceded for holding on too long.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Cardiff 2005
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Which reminds me, where are Mr Cooke and Mr Brough these days ? I didn't see them playing at Headingley yesterday ... Are they part of Hull's perennial injury problem ?
In addtional, we don't have a crazy Papuan on the wing to gift you four in a tight game by doing something terminally stuipd on the wrong side of the line this time ....
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| Quote ="tvoc"
I expect it'll be a different Hull side Leeds will be facing next week in the one that counts.'"
Add home advantage it's going to be a very tough to game to win.
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| It will be tough and a different hull team, but feel confident should win it
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Well like you said, we will just have to dissagree.
I came away from that game though, despite seeing exactly what I pay to watch, a fantastic quality rugby performance with ball in hand, and yet went home dissapointed because of the defensive effort.
And to be honest, unlike yourself, even if Hull had never had the ball for that last 10 and not scored the extra points, I still would have been dissapointed with the defensive effort.'"
Don't want to take away tvoc's thunder but comparing the stats from yesterday to today, according to Opta Leeds made only 1 missed tackle yesterday and Hull only 2.
Can't wait to see who the one is credited to. I know Burrow missed Luaki 3 minutes into the second half, I noticed it because he did not appear to miss him the other times and I thought he did well with it.
Pretty sure though that when tvoc's stats come out on the individual players that the missed will add to more than one, surely.
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| Senior in the yep: [i"It's going to be a different kettle of fish at the KC Stadium," he said. "More than likely they'll have a few players back. We've reviewed the game and we need to improve as well."[/i
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