When we used to be tested in RN they'd turn up unannounced and no-one was allowed to leave the ship/base until they'd completed their tests and it was usuallly at 75/85% of the ships company that were tested.
They also could tell if someone else had donated a "speciman" for their mate!

I've never seen any players outside or inside SL taking drugs.

Quote ="El Diablo"I'd love to see a tightening up on drug testing in RL, and most other sports. I don't think laying off recreational drugs is too much to ask of aprofessional sportsman, before you even get onto actual cheating through drug use. I remember reading this: www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tomfordyce/2 ... _gold.html from an oft-neglected perspective on the problem of doping in athletics. Not entirely relevant here, but a good read. What is more relevant is that drug taking in pro sport does great harm to the reputation of the sport which gives these people their living. I'd like to see testers turning up unannounced at training and testing a decent sample of the registered players they find there.'" The problem is there will always be stuff that is undetectable, performance enhancing wise.

Quote ="El Diablo"I'd love to see a tightening up on drug testing in RL, and most other sports. I don't think laying off recreational drugs is too much to ask of aprofessional sportsman, before you even get onto actual cheating through drug use. I remember reading this: www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tomfordyce/2 ... _gold.html from an oft-neglected perspective on the problem of doping in athletics. Not entirely relevant here, but a good read. What is more relevant is that drug taking in pro sport does great harm to the reputation of the sport which gives these people their living. I'd like to see testers turning up unannounced at training and testing a decent sample of the registered players they find there.'" The problem is there will always be stuff that is undetectable, performance enhancing wise.

Neither have I, but a lad that works for me goes to the gym with a couple of lads who's international SL playing mate loves a bit in town the night after a game, allegedly of course.

I think thats what steamin Willie Beamen used to take... invisible juice I think it was called

I've seen a few Super League players taking recreational drugs and one of them was after the Gareth Hock scandal came out, I don't see why they'd take the gamble myself after never been involved with that type of thing myself...

Is that like the bit towards the end of 'Withnail And I' ?

Pretty poor reason not to test for the ones you do know about isn't it?

Quote ="El Diablo"I'd love to see a tightening up on drug testing in RL, and most other sports. I don't think laying off recreational drugs is too much to ask of aprofessional sportsman, before you even get onto actual cheating through drug use. I remember reading this: www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tomfordyce/2 ... _gold.html from an oft-neglected perspective on the problem of doping in athletics. Not entirely relevant here, but a good read. What is more relevant is that drug taking in pro sport does great harm to the reputation of the sport which gives these people their living. I'd like to see testers turning up unannounced at training and testing a decent sample of the registered players they find there.'" without getting into why some drugs are fine and some are terrible druuuugs drug taking in sport does no harm to the reputation of any sport anywhere ever, a deliberate attempt at gaining an unnatural advantage through the use of performance enhancing compounds does. one is cheating, one is a part of most peoples everyday life

Quote ="El Diablo"I'd love to see a tightening up on drug testing in RL, and most other sports. I don't think laying off recreational drugs is too much to ask of aprofessional sportsman, before you even get onto actual cheating through drug use. I remember reading this: www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tomfordyce/2 ... _gold.html from an oft-neglected perspective on the problem of doping in athletics. Not entirely relevant here, but a good read. What is more relevant is that drug taking in pro sport does great harm to the reputation of the sport which gives these people their living. I'd like to see testers turning up unannounced at training and testing a decent sample of the registered players they find there.'" without getting into why some drugs are fine and some are terrible druuuugs drug taking in sport does no harm to the reputation of any sport anywhere ever, a deliberate attempt at gaining an unnatural advantage through the use of performance enhancing compounds does. one is cheating, one is a part of most peoples everyday life

I just don't think it would. No matter what testing regime was in place you're still going to get people claiming that they've seen players taking drugs in nightclubs, just like they're doing right now in this thread.

Back to what Dunemann's said in the original article. Basically, if a player was to so blatantly pretend to be injured to make sure he wasn't tested, then those actions would be just as clear to his coaches and ultimately the club management. Dunemann is basically suggesting that RL clubs are willingly allowing their players to take drugs and evade testing.

I don't believe that clubs would be allowing players to act in such a manner and I don't think the drug testers are that stupid that they can be evaded so easily.

What utter ****ing nonsense.

Couldn't agree more.

I can honestly say that the alleged coke antics at Bath have in no way lowered my appreciation of rugby union.

indeed those coffee drinking b@stards are ruining our game,

I personally have seen a current super league player drinking alcohol,

and also im ashamed to say, once gave a blood thinning agent to another former super league player, i lent him an aspirin

i also shared a diuretic (a cup of tea) with an SL youth coach, and shockingly saw another current SL player smoking tobacco,

i've also heard rumours of players having painkilling injections before playing, some even using steriods to reduce swelling, shockingly they do this with the full backing of the clubs!

drugs in sport really is a massive problem

No doubt but the level of belief attached to such statements when they appear should be reduced if the game had such a stringent test applied in addition to the regime in place.

It goes to show how profeesional some players are.

I'm not name dropping but Macca came to my Wedding doo last Sunday and even though he's out injured he wouldnt have an beer.

Myself and Mr Gandy know quite a few of our friends like to touch the White Stuff and we can't quite understand why!

It goes show to show you dont need Beer/drugs to have a good time

I heard a very intresting story bouta player getting ejected out of a hotel last weekend which made the player look a silly so & so

Nor do you have to take your clothes off to have a good time.

We could dance and party all night and drink some cherry wine!!

or watch those ppv channels

I can name several clubs/coaches over the past few years that have been well aware of drug taking cultures within their respective teams.

The medical staff and dieticians advise players on how to clense their systems. I have had posts removed in the past for insinuating names and examples so there is no point me even trying to explain.

This may get removed, but I also know of this happening at GB level. '"

In which case, rather than playing the "look how much I know, how cool am I" card on an internet message board I would suggest taking your "knowledge" to the appropriate authorities.

How cool would it be if his name was actually 'Dudeman'...?

I really liked Dunners....he was a good player who I think at times was underrated. Was a nice bloke too.

The authorities at Redhall are well aware of it!

I have nothing to prove to anybody, and gain nothing by playing the "look how much I know, how cool am I" card.

I thought this was a message board to share thoughts/experiences on. More fool me. Maybe I should be talking about 'who I own', 'how gay are you', 'how stupid is your opinion' as per most threads on here, would you prefer this?