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| Quote ="rhinoms"he did take us as far as he could imo.'"
Where else could he take us after WCC?
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| Quote ="Ouzo"Where else could he take us after WCC?'"
Exactly, other than the challenge cup there was nowhere else to go.
I do believe he left us in a better position than he found us but i also think it was the right time to go.
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| I forgot to say i wish we still had the discipline he demanded!
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| My doubts about Tony Smith were always regarding his belief in a light weight mobile pack - sounds all well and good, but if your up against a big pack your going to stuggle to make yards, then struggle to set a platform for attacking.
JJB was used as a prop alot in 2005 from what I remember, I thought he was the smallest, most uneffective prop in the league yet he reguarly went to prop during games.
Although the sacking of Ward didn't help. People reguarly said that Peacock carried the pack by himself in his first season.
I remember when Ashley Gibson was given his first few run outs and Tony Smith, when asked for his comments on him stated that "his future is in the back row". Many thought he would be to small to play centre!
Then we go back to the recent world cup where he only took 4 props forwards, one got injured and left us with 3. He still seems to think that going with a lighter 2nd row is the answer.
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"period around time she was with Neil Morrissey yes'"
You're sick lad.
I'd never touch a bird on rag week.
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"period around time she was with Neil Morrissey yes'" So you're saying you wouldn't now Lawrie?
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| TS first season GF winners League Winners
BM first Season GF Winners World Title Winners
Not much to call between their two records at this point other than we were still in the cup at this time in 2005 and won the wcc, however bluey has now won titles at league world and international level whereas smith can't beat the aussies let alone nil them.
I also believe Bluey is a better man manager and this showed at the end of last season when the chips were down he harnesed team spirit as apposed to smith in 2005 and 2006 where the team spirit fell to pieces
Smith is a great coach but bluey is better
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"So you're saying you wouldn't now Lawrie?'"
Were as Frosties got "excited" over that dance act, I got "excited" over Amanda last night
..Su Bo came 2nd tho
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| I think Smith is a better coach. However it should be noted that we have a weaker more unbalanced squad this year.
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| Quote ="LeedsPokerGuru"I think Smith is a better coach. However it should be noted that we have a weaker more unbalanced squad this year.'"
And who's fault is that?
Smith by a country mile for me, in fact I expect Warrington to progress further under Smith than the current incumbent of the Leeds hot seat pretty quickly.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"
If your compairing to the 80's then yes good year. But were compairing to the present day not the 80s dipstick.
We made the CC final when in form. by time the final came around we were in bad form.
Our early season form took us well ahead in the league table - Only to throw it away as we never recovered from the CC final loss.
We played an injury riddened Saints side in the playoff game. Was easy. We then had a week off and still got spankned by Bulls in the final. The scoreline flattered Leeds that day.'"
Would you say that 1 loss in 4, or 2 losses in 12 games was bad form. Not sure I would. Especially as those 12 games we scored 554 points.
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