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| Quote ="tvoc"Leeds 2009 hooking combinations/results (starting hooker + recognised hooking option on the bench)
Diskin (start) - Buderus (sub) W 3, D 0, L =#FF00005
Buderus (start) - Diskin (sub) W 5, D 0, L =#FF00001
Diskin (start) - McShane (sub) W 2, D 0, L =#FF00000
Diskin - W 9, D 0, L =#FF00002
Buderus - W 3, D 0, L =#FF00000
McShane - W 1, D 0, L =#FF00000
Jones-Buchanan - W 1, D 0, L =#FF00000
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Diskin (start) - Buderus (sub) W 2, D 0, L =#FF00001
Buderus (start) - Diskin (sub) W 1, D 0, L =#FF00002'"
When will Brian McClennan give Mr 100% win record his first apperance of the season?.
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| Quote ="The Joker®"When will Brian McClennan give Mr 100% win record his first apperance of the season?.'"
After Buderus' display yesterday, hopefully this friday.
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| Quote ="G1"After Buderus' display yesterday, hopefully this friday.'"
He was limping heavily this morning so i wouldn't be surprised to see Mcshane given a chance.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"He was limping heavily this morning so i wouldn't be surprised to see Mcshane given a chance.'"
That wallet's bloody heavy you know.
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| Quote ="tvoc"If McShane's up for it, find him another SL club to cut his teeth with for the rest of this season and see where he stands when the 2011 squad is being constructed?'"
He would indeed be up for the opportunity IMO although the club has stated to him that there is little chance he would be given the chance to go out on loan at this stage.
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| Quote ="G1"After Buderus' display yesterday, hopefully this friday.'"
What is your opinion regarding the chances of a fully fit Danny Buderus ever being dropped by Brian McClennan?.
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| Quote ="The Joker®"What is your opinion regarding the chances of a fully fit Danny Buderus ever being dropped by Brian McClennan?.'"
Slim to none - his performances this season don't justify his selection mind you
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"Slim to none - his performances this season don't justify his selection mind you'"
Agree entirely
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"Slim to none - his performances this season don't justify his selection mind you'"
Agreed.
IMO he's been a disappointment overall and he will have to go some for the remainder of his short Leeds career to make that ground up.
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| Quote ="G1"Agreed.
IMO he's been a disappointment overall and he will have to go some for the remainder of his short Leeds career to make that ground up.'"
It is a shame but it was a gamble that doesn't appear to have worked - this simply looks a year too far - even his tackling is poor
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| Hate to say I told you so, but I did. He was obviously coming for the wrong reasons and when he got that injury Leeds should have looked for any excuse to mutually agree for it to not happen. Buderus and Diskin clearly wasn't going to be a dangerous partnership and I think you would have been better spending the money on a prop.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Hate to say I told you so, but I did. He was obviously coming for the wrong reasons and when he got that injury Leeds should have looked for any excuse to mutually agree for it to not happen. Buderus and Diskin clearly wasn't going to be a dangerous partnership and I think you would have been better spending the money on a prop.'"
We carried him last year and still managed to top the table and win the GF, again, so whilst he has personally been a bit of a disappointment there's no need to uis to be too upset.
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| Quote ="G1"We carried him last year and still managed to top the table and win the GF, again, so whilst he has personally been a bit of a disappointment there's no need to uis to be too upset.'"
No, of course there isn't. But being better than we are doesn't mean you can't make mistakes.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"No, of course there isn't. But being better than we are doesn't mean you can't make mistakes.'"
Absolutely.
If a signing doesn't pan out in the way you had hoped it doesn't necessarily mean it was a mistake either.
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| He's still only 6 weeks into his comback from a bad injury, give him time, he's too good a player not to have a positive impact on the team at some point.
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| The point is, as ex-Aus captain and playing in one of the most important positions on the field (in the NRL you can ignore 13 as a playmaker as nobody uses loose forwards that way) along with 1, 6 and 7, he ought to be capable of making the team as a whole play a lot better with him than without him.
Personally I've seen no sign at all of that level of performance from him. Rather what seems to happen is that Leeds revert to a slightly different style when Diskin plays, which has been successful in 4 GFs.
That may seem harsh to some, but if we are to sign international players from Aus, I expect them to make a big difference to the side. Otherwise we may as well have signed an average NRL hooker if we needed cover for Diskin.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Personally I've seen no sign at all of that level of performance from him. '"
Are you still in Brisbane?
The basic problem remains, that the two hooker's games don't exactly compliment each other. Has Buderus ever been used in this way in his career and the same can be asked of Diskin also?
Leeds' ability to identify a problem area and then make a signing that doesn't offer a solution is well founded.
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| The point is tvoc, that given Buderus' track record and pedigree, his performances on the field ought to make the idea of bothering with Diskin on the bench to be a complete nonsense.
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| are we still on about this
we have two hookers in the 17
woopy f*ckin doo
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| We should never have signed him. Waste of money, waste of space and now we are carrying a 2nd hooker when othere areas of the squad are weak. Top work by the management.
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| Just wondering how easy it is to watch Leeds from Brisbane, that's all. I live just a 100 miles from Headingley and I know how difficult that is sometimes.
Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"The point is tvoc, that given Buderus' track record and pedigree, his performances on the field ought to make the idea of bothering with Diskin on the bench to be a complete nonsense.'"
Try telling that to the coach and CEO. As I said Leeds have a history of identifying a problem area and making signings that don't address the issue.
Leeds need a quality coach - they give the job to an old boy with little experience
Leeds need a right centre - they sign a left one
Leeds need a right winger - they sign a left one
Leeds need a rotation prop - they sign a back rower
Leeds need an impact hooker - they sign an 80 minute one
Of course some other decisions taken make complete sense.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Just wondering how easy it is to watch Leeds from Brisbane, that's all. I live just a 100 miles from Headingley and I know how difficult that is sometimes.
Try telling that to the coach and CEO. As I said Leeds have a history of identifying a problem area and making signings that don't address the issue.
Leeds need a quality coach - they give the job to an old boy with little experience
Leeds need a right centre - they sign a left one
Leeds need a right winger - they sign a left one
Leeds need a rotation prop - they sign a back rower
Leeds need an impact hooker - they sign an 80 minute one
Of course some other decisions taken make complete sense.'"
Its a wonder that such a Mickey Mouse management team managed to win us 3 titles in a row, and 4 in 6 years
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Its a wonder that such a =#FF0000Mickey Mouse management team managed to win us 3 titles in a row, and 4 in 6 years'"
Which of course I never came close to suggesting.
Do you think every decision they make is correct?
No Challenge Cup win this millenium is a poor return for a club with such a proud history in the competition. Considering this is a 'golden era' for the club that is unlikely to be repeated for a while that's an opportunity missed.
At Leeds it's usually around a thirty year wait for a great set of players to come along together.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Which of course I never came close to suggesting.
Do you think every decision they make is correct?
No Challenge Cup win this millenium is a poor return for a club with such a proud history in the competition. Considering this is a 'golden era' for the club that is unlikely to be repeated for a while that's an opportunity missed.
At Leeds it's usually around a thirty year wait for a great set of players to come along together.'"
Of course there have been plenty of poor decisions. But as they say hindsight is 20-20.
Challenge cup is a bit of a bug bear of mine, but I wouldn't swap one of the 4 titles for it.
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