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| Quote ="Clearwing"Apparently not. My reading of it is that he has to either regain or kick the ball, otherwise it's a knock-on.
=#8000BFThe laws, plus various terms from the glossary:
"Knock On means to knock the ball towards the opponent's dead ball line with hand or arm"
Accidental <knock-on> 2. If, after knocking-on accidentally, the player knocking-on regains or kicks the ball before it touches the ground, a goal post, cross bar or an opponent, then play shall be allowed to proceed.
Otherwise play shall stop and a scrum shall be formed except after the fifth play-the-ball
"Kick means imparting motion to the ball with any part of the leg (except the heel) from the knee to toe inclusive."
So, if ball travels forward prior to hitting leg above knee then rules suggest knock-on. If it hits the knee, he's deemed to have kicked it so play on.'"
Hit's Mcguire's knee and goes back.
Clearest try I've ever seen.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"I'd still think that it was fine even reading that. Realistically other than the judgement of intent, what McGuire did was no different to a player knocking the ball forward then palming it back.'"
That was my take on it initially and was why I checked the rules. Going off those rules, a palm-back can also be construed as a knock on, regardless of how many times we've seen play waved on.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Hit's Mcguire's knee and goes back.
Clearest try I've ever seen.
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I'd say it hit him above the knee
Gotta love those rugby gods
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| What I find PATHETIC about the Wigan Board is if you comment with something the Admin doesn't like, you are Blocked.
They are now trying to use the James Child Thread to justify their embarrassing Thread about Thaler.
I think they'll find everyone was in agreement, Child is a terrible ref for everyone in Rugby League, not just Leeds.
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| You can find a speech by Kev Sinfield on youtube to leeds university - carnegie conversations. Real interesting stuff. He touches upon ref's in that.
He says that a grand final winning team actually get's reffed harder the following season compared to others, but this becomes a massive benefit when it comes to playoff time because the team has been spending all season being drilled harder they are better prepared. He says when it get's to playoffs and grand final all games are reffed the same because they know what's at stake.
Something I've always noticed when you get to the grand final only stonewallers are given and the game flows well. Why they don't ref like that week in week out i'll never know.
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| Don't go anywhere near the Weegan board anymore
Full of sanctimonius insular clowns fully supported by tetchy mods who won't allow outsiders to criticize their once great club
In Yorkshire speak "Feck em!"
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| You're getting worse than Saints fans on here. Obsessed with Wigan, still the most successful RL team of all time. Carry on, it makes you look small time.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"You're getting worse than Saints fans on here. Obsessed with Wigan, still the most successful RL team of all time. Carry on, it makes you look small time.'"
Right there. That's why.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"You're getting worse than Saints fans on here. Obsessed with Wigan, still the most successful RL team of all time. Carry on, it makes you look small time.'"
Actually this time around I think the Wigan forum hasn't been too bad .I think about the time when Maguire became coach and Wigan started to get results Quite a few new posters joined and started coming over on here and predicting Leeds demise and one or two of us rose to the bait particularly after 2010 .well we didn't sink and Wigan didn't dominate and most Wiganers have a grudging respect for this Leeds era since 2004
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"You're getting worse than Saints fans on here. Obsessed with Wigan, still the most successful RL team of all time. Carry on, it makes you look small time.'"
um, you,re on here
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| Well I just got back in the country today and spent this evening reading the RL papers and just read a letter from a Mr Ron Mason entitled Lucky Leeds ,no doubt you will all have read it .Now that was typical of what this thread is about.Mr Mason comes from Wigan. I keep rereading it
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"You're getting worse than Saints fans on here. Obsessed with Wigan, still the most successful RL team of all time. Carry on, it makes you look small time.'"
Have...have you seen your own sig?
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"Well I just got back in the country today and spent this evening reading the RL papers and just read a letter from a Mr Ron Mason entitled Lucky Leeds ,no doubt you will all have read it .Now that was typical of what this thread is about.Mr Mason comes from Wigan. I keep rereading it'"
After reading this letter I think those weird Wiganers are still there ,but not many on here
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"You're getting worse than Saints fans on here. Obsessed with Wigan, still the most successful RL team of all time. Carry on, it makes you look small time.'"
You are the bell end who started listing Hardaker stats in a Tomkins NRL thread!
And you have the brass neck to come on here saying we are obsessed?
In the nutter league table Wigan fans are above Scientologists and just below the Nazi party.
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| Re the McGuire no knock-on in the build up to the Moon score - at the time I thought the pass went backwards but the Wigan tackle was pushing McGuire towards his own tryline which gave the impression (from certain angles) that the ball may have come out forwards. Tight but correct call but also not a call I'd want to be on the opposite end of. The best bit was McDermott's celebration and no doubt sarcastically claiming it to be a training ground move.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"You're getting worse than Saints fans on here. Obsessed with Wigan, still the most successful RL team of all time. Carry on, it makes you look small time.'"
Well if we are obsessed, at least we're obsessed with your first team. You are obsessed with our kids. Which when I read back makes you sound all kinds of wrong so I should have typed junior players, which still doesn't sound right.
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| Quote ="G1"Well if we are obsessed, at least we're obsessed with your first team. You are obsessed with our kids. Which when I read back makes you sound all kinds of wrong so I should have typed junior players, which still doesn't sound right.'"
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"You're getting worse than Saints fans on here. Obsessed with Wigan, still the most successful RL team of all time. Carry on, it makes you look small time.'"
Who's on here whenever our u19's lose a game?
Funnily enough you're absence was noted when our u16's went unbeaten or dosen't that count and our Acadamy is still in crisis?
As for your success as good as it is it's getting further and further away in the history books old lad!
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These Wigan fans certainly need a very good memory to recall their glory days
Funny how they were most successful prior to the salary cap era and now they only win owt when we don't win the trophy ourselves
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| Quote ="rhinoms"As for your success as good as it is it's getting further and further away in the history books old lad!
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It's probably filed in the same archive as Royal Engineers' successes in the FA Cup.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"It's probably filed in the same archive as Royal Engineers' successes in the FA Cup.'"
They all got excited yesterday because they thought Doc Brown really had invented a Time Machine, so they could go back to when they were actually successful.
Great Scott Rogues!
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| Let the Pie-Eaters dwell on their distant past glory - it's all they've got these days and it was very, VERY expensive for them
They're still paying the price today when they get told that the soccer lot need the pitch and they'll have to ship out for a game or two each season.
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"Let the Pie-Eaters dwell on their distant past glory - it's all they've got these days and it was very, VERY expensive for them
They're still paying the price today when they get told that the soccer lot need the pitch and they'll have to ship out for a game or two each season.'"
In fairness we spent a fair few bob trying to keep pace to the tune of winning sweet FA at the time.
Just getting in before the pie eaters on that one
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"In fairness we spent a fair few bob trying to keep pace to the tune of winning sweet FA at the time.
Just getting in before the pie eaters on that one
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That meant we were able to keep hold of our ground - for all its failings.
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Thankfully GH & Caddick came in to rescue the club & make us live within our means something others have yet to learn from.
That meant we were able to keep hold of our ground - for all its failings.'"
Oh, I dunno. The ground share with Millwall probably has its benefits.
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