That line's a bit rich after Leeds just pinched Briscoe from Hull, not to mention Hardaker from Featherstone etc!

No ill will? Are you kidding?

Sorry I thought you said,

"not very good and will never make it at Headingley"

To write-off a good kid who wants to play rugby is 'tard like.

'We' means decent supporters.

What relevance does that have to sending players out on loan?

If Hull FC had been bothered enough to tie their own youngsters up to long term contracts perhaps they wouldn't have to go around trying to sign players on loan from other SL clubs.

Once you find yourself behind Kirke in the pecking order the writing is clearly on the wall. Ridiculous, but it IS time to move on lad.

TBF to the lad he was sighned as a project by mclellan, Whilst he's not done alot wrong he hasn't progressed as expected. The only game where he showed promise was in the cup at HQ last season (wakey i think).

I can see him going the same way as mclellans other 'projects' Amor & Coady

Compared to what we have in the squad I don't think he compares and in my opinion he wasn't a good signing at the time and hasn't improved as maybe some on here suggested/expected.

Just because I don't rate the lad doesn't mean I don't wish him a successful career.

How many titles do you have to win at the club before people remember your name?

Thats exactly the point being made rastrick, the lad hasn't had a run of games to prove one way or the other if he his good anough. he always looks ok to me but as has been said theres a lot of competition for backrow and how do you give em all a run?

Not to mention Pitts, himself, from Wakefield.

Gotcha, specifically who made what promises to Pitts and how are you privvy to those promises? Or are you just making stuff up?

Don't make him use the word "fact" again....

who was the boss at hull fc before adam pearson

send the answers on a post card to Gary Hetherington at leeds so he can pass on to his wife

Which brings us back full circle to the Pearson 5h!t slinging comment.

I'm not suggesting privvy to anything. Look back at the announcement of his signing, you don't need to read anymore it is all there.

Pitts had a choice of clubs when coming to end of his contract, Wakefield deperately wanted him to stay, but we decided to get in early and pay a fee, on the basis that we had a shortage of players ready for the next step. Those were the opportunities presented to Pitts, and he went for the one from Leeds.

Look at what he club announced the intention was for him, and look at what he is doing now.

He was mis-led.

I'm not sure how anybody can dispute that.

I'm disputing it. As the Brain Trust of you and Gotcha are claiming it, let's see if one of you can prove it.

If he's not good enough yet, he should be given a loan to prepare him to potentially play week in week out. If he's not deemed good enough he should be let go. If he's going to be used in rotation, he should stay patient. Simple.

www.therhinos.co.uk/news/7593.php Quote "He has joined us with immediate effect and that will give us some more strength in depth. He will do some physical testing with our fitness staff this week and we will make a decision after that when he will make his first appearance as a Rhino," added McClennan. [size=150I know I still have a big challenge in front of me here at Leeds to prove to my team mates and the coaches that I am worthy of a place in the first team. [/size'" Can't any promises there. Pitts knew the score. Looks like He's failed to meet the challenge he set himself rather than any broken promises. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 149242.stm Quote "I'll start working hard in the reserves and try to make a name for myself and get recognised from there"'" No promises there either. So, I'll ask again, just what were these promises or is it just guff that has been made up. IMO, it's Guff from the usual suspects. The quotes at the time of his signing made it clear that both player and coach (at that time Mclennan) knew this was both an opportunity and a challenge for Pitts. Not that he had been made any promises.

www.therhinos.co.uk/news/7593.php Quote "He has joined us with immediate effect and that will give us some more strength in depth. He will do some physical testing with our fitness staff this week and we will make a decision after that when he will make his first appearance as a Rhino," added McClennan. [size=150I know I still have a big challenge in front of me here at Leeds to prove to my team mates and the coaches that I am worthy of a place in the first team. [/size'" Can't any promises there. Pitts knew the score. Looks like He's failed to meet the challenge he set himself rather than any broken promises. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 149242.stm Quote "I'll start working hard in the reserves and try to make a name for myself and get recognised from there"'" No promises there either. So, I'll ask again, just what were these promises or is it just guff that has been made up. IMO, it's Guff from the usual suspects. The quotes at the time of his signing made it clear that both player and coach (at that time Mclennan) knew this was both an opportunity and a challenge for Pitts. Not that he had been made any promises.

.... And it's a shame. Without a doubt he has better abilities than some we could all name ( and is younger ).
I am still optimistic that Hauraki can make a decent second rower, but I'm also sure Pitts could have been developed into something the equal of Huaraki.......and thus freed up a valuable quota spot to boot.

Quote ="G1"www.therhinos.co.uk/news/7593.php Can't any promises there. Pitts knew the score. Looks like He's failed to meet the challenge he set himself rather than any broken promises. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 149242.stm No promises there either. So, I'll ask again, just what were these promises or is it just guff that has been made up. IMO, it's Guff from the usual suspects. The quotes at the time of his signing made it clear that both player and coach (at that time Mclennan) knew this was both an opportunity and a challenge for Pitts. Not that he had been made any promises.'" So you don't think he is being politically correct here ? Being an employee most of us are careful in what we say whilst still wanting to be employed. Do you think he has been given an equal chance as others have ?

Quote ="G1"www.therhinos.co.uk/news/7593.php Can't any promises there. Pitts knew the score. Looks like He's failed to meet the challenge he set himself rather than any broken promises. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 149242.stm No promises there either. So, I'll ask again, just what were these promises or is it just guff that has been made up. IMO, it's Guff from the usual suspects. The quotes at the time of his signing made it clear that both player and coach (at that time Mclennan) knew this was both an opportunity and a challenge for Pitts. Not that he had been made any promises.'" So you don't think he is being politically correct here ? Being an employee most of us are careful in what we say whilst still wanting to be employed. Do you think he has been given an equal chance as others have ?

.... And even if you're right G1 is it really that important to you to be proven right ? Personally I couldn't be bothered researching what you've done here.....

Each to their own I guess

Im not saying its anybodys fault. I wouldnt blame Pitts if he turns out to be not good enough. But players have been and are given chances in the first team in the 2nd row. A young player has shown himself to be better, and a centre has proven himself better. These are the facts of life for a professional sportsman. If Pitts wants to play first team, he needs to prove himself good enough for first team.

How many times has the lad played prop?

Was the lad signed as a prop? He hasn't been developed the way the club said he would be. That's the only issue, not sure why you're looking for something else.

I think its pretty clear why he, along with any other player in a similar position, wont be going to Hull www.superleaguefans.com/hull-fc/ ... igate.html It seems Mr Pearson is intent on burning his bridges with Leeds, which is a shame because the co-operation shown before between the clubs looked to benefit both.

I think its pretty clear why he, along with any other player in a similar position, wont be going to Hull www.superleaguefans.com/hull-fc/ ... igate.html It seems Mr Pearson is intent on burning his bridges with Leeds, which is a shame because the co-operation shown before between the clubs looked to benefit both.

Genuine question, was he signed as a prop? I thought he had always been a second-row.
In fairness, Delaney was signed as a centre, he is now seen as second-row because he is better there, is that bad development by the club?

Who doubts Big Mac after last season?