I was yes and didnt bother ot catchup when I got back.

Bad was it? Whose fault was it?

It was the referees fault for sinbinning Farrell for a late bad challenge. It should never have been sinbinned apparently, despite the rules stating you are, and Leeds conned the ref.

By contrast Ablett is been lambasted for a challenge that wasn't late. It then just comes down to the debatable interpretation of whether it was foul play. Guilty until proven innocent in the pie eaters minds.

It was 5 mins between the warning and the next pen!! Like you say both were never sin binnings but Im not sure how a ref can follow through with 1 warning and not the next!

Ive no idea how long its lasts and Im pretty sure Mr Cummins couldnt tell you either!!! And thats whats making our game look silly IMO. Especially when Albert is allowing players to verbally abuse him and get away with it!!

Think your the only person who thought it wasnt then!!

Have I given my thoughts on the incident? I don't recall posting any? Just because you feel you and other Wigan fans feel your view is correct, does not mean it is.

I have already said above that I have not seen it again to be able to judge. I also don't believe what they see on sky on the night is enough to judge an incident like that.

What is good enough is what the disciplinary panel see, and I will accept whatever it is they decide. What is most relevant though is IA post on the other page.

So how do I find out what charge Grade 'C' will generate, which is what Ablett's been charged with
Bailey - No charge according to RFL site

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2-3 matches

2-3 games??? Is that all?? For fecks sake, that aint gunna be enough to satisfy the baying Weeeeegan mob.
There'll be riots down at Wigan Pier tonight. Pies will be thrown to the ground in disgust.
...and Ablett'll be back for the play offs, first game probably against Weeegan, so they've time to practice their "Booooooooooooooooo" noises

2-3 matches seems about right for me!! Oh and the Booooo noises are more commonly found at GPW Recruitment Stadium?

As Gotcha has said, excellent summary. He's been charged with reckless.

I wonder if any Wigan fans want to retract any of the bile they have posted? I won't be holding my breath.

Thanks both of you, we aim to please and all that!

Reckless Grade C is slightly higher than I anticipated, I was expecting Careless or Reckless Grade B.

I think he is going to cop a suspension more than likely now then. He will not get 3 because of his previous excellent record so bank on 1 for sure and possibly 2. I predict 1... which is s shame in some ways.

As you say, expect a flood of Wigan and other telling us that the review panel is clearly made up of misguided fools and it was clearly intentional and he clearly was aiming to break his jaw before he even left the changing room, never mind before he started the chase!

Tetchy Pie Eaters don't seem happy. Doubt it would take much trolling for the 'ban' button to be pressed over there.
Someone needs to explain the word 'reckless' to the Goon Muppets.

I think you are pretty much spot on with what you are predicting. We have to remember that this is only the review panels findings at the moment, and at this stage no other circumstances have been taken into account, other than viewing the tape.

Now the disciplinary panel need to sit down and watch it properly, and they will take into account Abletts version of events, and also his record, and the other usual things. They may actually change the grading whilst still finding guilty, or they may even not agree with the first findings.

You're assuming he'll be found guilty of the charge. I, personally am hoping he beats the rap. This place will be a scream

True, If I was the part of the team at Leeds I would be going into to the RFL tomorrow and pleading not guilty to Reckless but inferring that for Careless Grade A/B with a fine and no suspension they would plead guilty. If they give him any sort of suspension I would expect they will be back on Wednesday to appeal!

Watched it last night.
Reckless is probably the right word, fook knows what he thought he was doing.
2-3 matches would be right for me.

If he'd have got sent off i think they would have given him a 1 game ban or even sending off sufficient, but im thinking he will get a 2 game ban.

I didnt think he could get 1 as its a 2-3 game offence! I think he will get a 2 as he was reckless, just a shame that Stains will benefit!!

Ah fookwits.com

A, Look at the frame by frame slow mo
B, Mute Stevo.

Paused at the moment of impact Abletts arm is is tucked firmly into his chest.
Tomkins body is very low down after a good technique at defusing the bomb.
If Ablett is stood tall, arms tucked into his chest, not jumping into the tackle, not raising the forearm is there anything wrong with it? Ablett should have been more aware of the danger he did cause. He should have considered the body position that Tomkins will get himself into. But there was 0% malice what so ever. Clumbsy is absolutely spot on by Shaun Wane.

Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"I didnt think he could get 1 as its a 2-3 game offence! I think he will get a 2 as he was reckless, just a shame that Stains will benefit!!'" Cop a load of this fine example of 'RFL justice' in action. www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... php?id=296 Grade D: 2 to 5

Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"I didnt think he could get 1 as its a 2-3 game offence! I think he will get a 2 as he was reckless, just a shame that Stains will benefit!!'" Cop a load of this fine example of 'RFL justice' in action. www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... php?id=296 Grade D: 2 to 5

Quote ="tvoc"Cop a load of this fine example of 'RFL justice' in action. www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... php?id=296 Grade D: 2 to 5'"

Quote ="tvoc"Cop a load of this fine example of 'RFL justice' in action. www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... php?id=296 Grade D: 2 to 5'"

Quote ="tvoc"Cop a load of this fine example of 'RFL justice' in action. www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... php?id=296 Grade D: 2 to 5'" Sums the RFL and their disciplinary system up!!

Quote ="tvoc"Cop a load of this fine example of 'RFL justice' in action. www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... php?id=296 Grade D: 2 to 5'" Sums the RFL and their disciplinary system up!!

Quote ="tvoc"Cop a load of this fine example of 'RFL justice' in action. www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... php?id=296 Grade D: 2 to 5'" That is funny. True justice at work.

Quote ="tvoc"Cop a load of this fine example of 'RFL justice' in action. www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... php?id=296 Grade D: 2 to 5'" That is funny. True justice at work.

Seems to be an appetite for this to be true, when its not true unfortuantely.

Excellent thread though, and a lot of very interesting views, we should not lose sight of the fact it wasnt the Ablett incident in itself, its was jawdroppingly unreal to see us get a man sent off after all that went before, it is really difficult not to suspect favouritism, but I guess its possible that the ref just had an off night.

Surely after 3 games Tellins, Wire and this one where we had the bad end of official decisions, we can expect the balance to be levelled for the play offs, and we would accept that if it happens.

As for the Sn Tellins fans trying to bleat, I forgive every Leeds fan as the Tellins fans are just ridiculous, we tend to forget this in the heat of the moment, but to see the Tellins fans spout such utter drivel reconfirms that they are the real enemy and scourge of the game.

Wigan were given the penalties (away from home) 13 to 10.

That's unusual alright but not indicative of Wigan being particularly badly done to.