A Barrie Mac style prop would be lucky to play five games a season in the current climate. He was a bit of liability back then but nowadays he'd be a disaster.

From what Ive seen so far Frawley will do alright, Miller however Im not so sure about.

Barrie was great to watch but he would be banned every game.

We need someone like James Graham, Kylie etc. Hit the line hard and keep the tackles legal but hard

So far Miller has looked like what he is - a sevens player.
He's always looking to be involved, but he's always looking to keep the ball alive with basketball passes.
He could do some damage if he gets a break into open space, but he needs to cut out the mistakes and calm down a bit.

A peak Kylie Leuluai would revolutionise our pack, even the version that played in Rob and JJB’s testimonial would improve it.

Miller has looked naive in English conditions at times, but I don’t know how many games it takes to realise when to wind it in a bit.

Maybe Bentley's been advising him?

We have some repeat offenders right now that will lose us tight games against the better sides. I do like Miller going forward though. If he can steady his play a bit in our 20 he’ll be a weapon.

On the first try it would have been far more advantageous to have been given the penalty try, imagine losing by a point. Handley clearly would have scored without being fouled as he managed it with being fouled. Kick infront of the sticks could have been vital. As he didn't have possession I presume he couldn't be in the act of scoring, so couldn't have the additional penalty like the Newman score.

I guess you always have to check for the try first but what happened benefited the team committing the foul.

It seems like if a try is scored, all is forgiven. If a penalty try couldn’t be guaranteed, then it should have been a yellow card.

Just thinking how much sharper we look now with Croft at 6 and the distribution from Ackers. Croft is better than I expected in some ways.

What we really need is a few more top fans like KJR Rhino, with support from the likes of him we would (I am sure), win everything every year, Maybe even Gary makes him head coach, if his/her predictive ability is as good (pre) judgement maybe he could see a special recruit.
FWIW, 4th/5th is rather what I am expecting as it shows progression from 23, Good entertaining rugby such as we had on Saturday would be progress. The difference being if this happens I will consider my season ticket money well spent.

A penalty try isn’t an 8 point try, you have to take the kick where its ‘scored’ and don’t get another go

A penalty try is awarded between the sticks. A penalty try can't be awarded though if the try is actually scored. So in that sense a penalty try more or less guarantees you 6 pts, which, everything being equal, so does an "8 pt try".

Sorry you’re correct im getting mixed up (easily done)

One big thing I've noticed is that the guy who is kicking the ball is the guy who is meant to be kicking the ball. How often in the wilderness years of Leeming, Dwyer, Sezer and Austin did we get to the sixth and find a prop or second row trying to manufacture a kick. The new spine are miles better already. As the grounds get firmer we are going to see a lot more from them.

Agreed Arthur, we just need the pack to make enough ground for them to have the time to put good quality plays on, without that it will be the right players getting the ball but the play will be hurried or a clearance kick instead of an attacking one.

I actually think Ruan might be the bit of punch we’re missing in an otherwise workmanlike back row.

Miller and Mom will be fine, they have class but are adapting. Frawley has been what I expected. Croft and Ackers clearly have some class. Goudemand solid.

I don’t for the life of me understand the people that bag Martin. Nothing flash but 7/10 every week even not taking into account his kicking.

Yes I get that but it's almost like Handley would have been better knocking on, getting a penalty try and a kick in front..

Frawley doesn’t seem to be a running half back, one that’s gonna keep defences guessing, so I was hoping his kicking game was gonna be a bit better than he shown in the first 3 games. It’s been disappointing to say the least, but we’ve got away with it so far. As for Mom, he’s been under the radar the first 3 games, nothing terrible, took a couple of catches but nothing to make you say wow. He seems happy to let Handley do the hard work and carry the ball out of defence at the moment, I’d expect him to start showing a bit more appetite in future games. Early days, but I’d be lying if I said either player has caught my eye for the right reasons.

Think your being overly harsh TBH

Momorosvki is a very ‘smart’ RL player, he’s not a flashy player but will make the correct decisions more than not, he’s a proper wingers centre and defensively very strong he will be s great signing.

Frawley is doing his job and will let croft do his thing. Against Cats we had pretty much zero field position so was constantly kicking from deep.

Thing with Frawley is that he does have Jack Sinfield breathing down his neck.

He does, but I think young Jack will have to wait for injury to strike. He might not be everybody's cup of tea but I can't recall Frawley missing a tackle, dropping a ball or giving away a penalty yet. Could anybody say the same for Austin or Sezer three games in? He's solid and other players do better for his presence. Good pro for Sinfield to learn from.

Having watched the game back on sky, I think we defended quite well all be it, Catalans at times made some poor errors and poor decisions. Like I've said last few weeks I think we'll see our attack click when the weather conditions improve and we continue to play a free style of rugby. Croft is impressing me more and more each week coming up with some big plays for our tries. Ruan needs to be getting more game time he defiantly adds something to our pack whether it's in back row or at prop, i don't think we need to or can afford to carry both Bentley, Martin & Mcdonnell all in 17 when and if we have majority/ all of our pack to choose from all play too similar and are all leaner modern day backrowers. Great money ball from Cam Smith who is doing a fine job of leading the team as captain in 2024, Ash Handley just seems to score and finish off outstanding tries for us this season so long may that continue. I think most of us on this forum would take 2 out of 3 wins to start there season let the season fully start before we right the team of eh.

I'm sure Frawley's kicking game would improve significantly if he wasn't having to kick from within his own 40m line most of the time.