Absolutely!

Let's all agree with loiner 81 he knows everything?

You guys understand that the decade of success was built on loyalty on both sides? Younger but very able players earning less than they could with the tacit or not so tacit agreement that down the line they would benefit from their patience. A whole host of players moved up several rungs in the pecking order with the 2015 retirements and moved up in salary. It's utterly plausable - indeed very likely - that Leeds are once again near cap with probably some wriggle room to bring in someone if we need to urgently.

Don't glory in the trophy laden years then criticise the method used to fund them. We're not quite paying back debts but we are paying back loyalty - and yes if those same players aren't delivering any more or were being carried by those who have now left then that is unfortunate. But those long contracts got us the over-spec'd squads which won the treble in the first place.

Agree up to a point. If that is the case then when Burrow, McGuire and JJB retire we should expect to see some reasonably major recruitment.

but those 3 players will be on much reduced contracts

Which Super League clubs have spent big on star players in last 5 years?

Yet during those successful years GH has proven to be ruthless wrt players like Mckenna Bai Senior Mcdermott Lauittiti Calderwood Dunneman & a host of fringe players so lets not try & re-write history.
Also we always recruited from a position of strength not weakness 2015 was always going to be the "cut off" highlighted when Sinfield & JP confirmed their respective departures how that transition has been handled is at best not good enough for a Club of our size & stature.
Throw in long term 1st team deals to passengers Delaney & Achurch it shows where GH has strayed away from that ruthless streak that laid the foundations fir our success.
So lets not go all "you aren't allowed to ? Or shouldn't ?" Where we are now or how we got here it's pretty easy for all to see.

Who says we should be spending "big"?

Where's the money Garry
Decent wedge built up for Garry in his own pension fund legally earned through his past endeavour.
Now it's time to start rebuilding the team fergie style and keep on earning maintain success for the club and fans.
What we can't have is Garry doing nothing Venga style padding out the years with mediocre teams for his own personal gain.
Garry has brought amazing success to the club and I for one am extremely grateful now is the time Garry.

This.

Sadly the sarcasm is lost on somebody with your intellectual capacity

I called it sloppy because it was. That's not a personal insult to ther OP but he listed 3 new players, leaving out at least another 6. That's sloppy at best, trolling at worst.

I've already said why the thread is pointless, it doesn't make sense. No one's ever come out and said we're not in the market for a half back due to money. Rightly or wrongly, we're not in the market for a half back because the club want to go with McGuire, Burrow, Sutcliffe, Lilley & Aston. So to start a thread asking where the money for a new half back is, is pointless.

No I got it Sal but thanks for jumping in and pointing out the bleeding obvious again

You can only sign players that want to come and play for Leeds who you think will fit into the culture.

It could well be that a change in culture is required if the club is to move forward and you can only do that by changing personnel i.e. the coach and the senior players.

Yes it would be great to have a top half back from the NRL but that isn't going to happen - so what alternative does GH have?

I personally would have signed Todd Carney he is by far the best half back in SL by quite a distance but Leeds would never sign a player with his past.

Which players that other clubs have signed do fans think GH should have signed?

Isn't Myler available next year?

None for this season. We've got McGuire & Burrow with Sutcliffe, Lilley & Aston waiting in the wings.
Depending how things pan out we might have to be on the look out for next season though.

To be writing off our half backs after 1 game when McGuire hasn't even played yet and Lilley's due a spell at some point is just ridiculous, IMO.

If McGuire retires, as expected, and Myler becomes available for next year then i'd like to see him and Lilley play together.

The move to Catalan has done Mylers form and career the world of good, but I'm not sure he's the type of halfback we need.

Wrt HB Sam Williams was available for this year in terms of the pack Taai at the Giants was available also Lefaoa was & whilst we continued with Achurch Cas also signed Jnr Moors.
Next year Tom Burgess Widdop & Myler are OOC.

Tbf if we are being critical of McGuire's fitness problems then Carney hasn't exactly been the best in that department in his time with Catalans.

You cant possibly say that about Todd Carney. He hasn't shown anything since arriving in Super League that would make me think he was anywhere near the best halfback in Super League. If he was as good now as he was 5 years ago then yes, but certainly not now, unless something changes in him due to his move to Salford.

We didn't continue with Achurch, we honoured his contract.

Yep, Todd Carney's been dreadful in every game i've seen him play since moving to SL.

I would also say we are lacking in the Prop and Loose Forward departments.

We do not have one good, or even specialist Loose Forward.

Does anyone really these days. Maybe Westerman at Warrington and Bird at Catalan? Most go for extra prop, workhorse back row types.

Having said that I'd like to see Ward or Sutty get a long term go at 13, they could really make it their own.

The ball playing loose forward will return, its just a matter of time, the trend for the extra prop, (which possibly started with Bailey there) will pass. ward is defo a classic loose, and Sutcliffe is possiblely in that mold as well, he certainly looking less like a stand off.