No not touchy at all, If he's worthy i'll definitely criticise his performance and although you could say he was indeed poor last week he certainly wasn't 'the most disappointing thing about last week' IMO and i think to single an individual out after that team performance was harsh.

He was poor yes but i just don't see how in such a poor team performance where our pack never layed a platform you can single out a inexperience Hooker for most criticism. Rob Burrow can indeed have a good technique at times against the bigger man but he certainly hasn't got a 'great technique', one of his biggets problems being moving his head to the side during the tackle.

Joker

Chill out, I didn't single him out for anything I said for me it was the most disappointing aspect, that alone should tell you I rate him very highly and was looking forward too seeing him get a full 80mins with not Buderus or Diskin in the team but he didn't take that opportunity as well as I had hoped and had a poor game.

It's not a knee jerk it's my view on that one game and fwiw I would throw him straight back in on friday against Hudds with Buderus.

It was an irrational repsonse fuelled by the thought that someone was having a go at his fwiend.

Smith
Donald
Delaney
Senior
Hall
McGuire
Burrow
Leulaui
Buderus
Peacock
Jones-Buchanan
Ablett
Sinfield

Lauititi
Clarkson
Bailey
McShane

Id of hoped Leeds wouldnt break the halves of Sinfield and McGuire up after playing well together.

Id go:

Smith
Donald
Delaney
Senior
Hall
McGuire
Sinfield
Leuluai
Buderus
Peacock
Jones Buchanan
Ablett
Clarkson

Lauitiiti
Bailey
Burrow
Kirke

When all are fit it's got to be McGuire/Burrow at halfs and Sinfield back to loose imo.

Agreed and after the last non-performance I think it's just what the squad needs right now.

x2!

doesn't matter which 2 out of the 3 play in the halves if the forwards don't lay the platform

would go:-
Smith
Donald
Delaney
Senior
Hall
Mcguire
Burrow
Bailey
Buderus
Peacock
Ablett
JJB
Sinfield
Kylie
Ali
Clarkson
Burgess

Like i said previous if your team is being outplayed and the forward pack isn't laying that platform it's hard for anybody to shine, From that performance last week whether we had McShane, Buderus or Diskin at Hooker wouldn't have made too much difference and we still would have struggle IMO. Personally i believe fitness wise he could definitely improve and could be carrying excess bodyfat.

Still the same repetitive boring persona i see.

Leeds struggled in part because McShane is a poor defender (as is Kirke) and opposition coaches aren't daft when running attacking players in their direction.



So you're basically saying he is fat and unfit at the moment?

I don't believe that he is a poor defender, IMO it could come back to the fitness point, Go on then 'Mr Great Stats Man' what were his tackling stats from last week?.


I'm saying that from a fans point of view it looks like he could be carrying excess bodyfat but obviously the Leeds backroom staff know a lot more than me about the subject, Who knows he could have been carrying an injury for all we know?.

Quote ="The Joker®"I don't believe that he is a poor defender, IMO it could come back to the fitness point, Go on then 'Mr Great Stats Man' what were his tackling stats from last week?.'" Last week's Opta stats with links to every Leeds SL regular Round game this season can be found here: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=462717 I trust the tackling stats about as far as I could throw Eric Pickles (which would not be very far) but when I see opposition players target McShane in defence and either run straight past or through him then I'd say that's a problem area, especially as Buderus especially and Diskin are good defenders around the ruck.

Quote ="The Joker®"I don't believe that he is a poor defender, IMO it could come back to the fitness point, Go on then 'Mr Great Stats Man' what were his tackling stats from last week?.'" Last week's Opta stats with links to every Leeds SL regular Round game this season can be found here: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=462717 I trust the tackling stats about as far as I could throw Eric Pickles (which would not be very far) but when I see opposition players target McShane in defence and either run straight past or through him then I'd say that's a problem area, especially as Buderus especially and Diskin are good defenders around the ruck.

Joker has a man crush. You lot should stop picking on him.

If it helps Joker, I thought McShane gave the best display on a rugby pitch ever given by anyone anywhere in the world................ever. And he looked well fit.

Happy?

Quite a likeness don't you think....

Didn't think it would be long before 'The Bodyguard' and i use the term loosely showed up, I already said he had a poor game so what's your point here?




So the team loses 25-6 and do you also believe the most disappointing thing about last weeks performance was the individual performance of the 20 year old Hooker?, That's my argument.

Well there's no need to turn on me. All I was trying to do was help you through what must be a very difficult scenario. The object of your desires is receiving criticisim and that must hurt. Hurt you dep. Deep inside.

I tried to help you heal.

Hrumph.

So basically your not going to answer the question then.

Does the lad know you fawn over him like this?

If you say sorry for snapping at me.

Good thread this.

Joker 4 McShane 4Eva n Eva
I.D.S.T!
xxx