I'd agree with most of that. PTB's were slow for both sides, I think Kylie was looking to get a quick play by diving into the tackle and trying to choose his own position, but even then Saints were slowing it up.
I also think Webb needs another couple of weeks and maybe even reserve games. We would have looked much more solid with Smith at FB and Ablett or Gibson at centre, but I guees we wouldn't have been able to spare Ablett from the pack anyways with Kirke and Ali out.

Clyde had a couple and one was very early on in his career I think. He paid much later when he arrived at Headingley in fact. I think it depends on the timing. If you are palying first team football at 18 and you need one at 26-27 you may struggle more than a kid who has one at 20 after only a couple of first team games. Less mileage and the hunger make a huge difference.

And I'm sure there are also a number players who have not "come through" injuries and hence not been as successful.

A difference of opinion is more than acceptable however immature name calling is rather poor IMO

And?



Immature name calling was required as a result of your child like response.

Thankfully we have people who know what they are on about in charge of team affairs.

That wouldnt be you then!

Oh dear. How little you know.

Keep slagging players off and abusing stewards (then boasting about it on here), it's what you do best.

I did not slag off Gibson just gave an honest opinion.

As for the other.......

You've written the lad off. It's as good as slagging him off.

Go away, you make me sick.

You are Brian McClennan............I claim my £5. Although due to the credit crunch..........I will accept £4

Tried NHS direct?

Is that where the steward went?

I believe its a callcentre?

Where would a steward go for stress related sickness after encountering baying fans at Headingley?

Unbelievable - not really - another thread derailed by a couple of immature "my dad's bigger than your dad" posters.

Gascoigne had one when he was in his early 20s he was never the same player again - Diskin was only in his early 20s and he isn't anywhere near the player he once was - Mathers the same too I think age has little do with it - a torn cruciate doesn't seem to heal as new and the loss of lateral movement at speed is significant

Shaun Long

Oh shut up you boring fart.

Point proved - when does school start because that is where your retorict belongs - its childish but then you know that

Darren Lockyear?

Thommy Martin?

Thought Webb didn't look match fit to me, but you could still see the guy is class, like the ball to Hall for his try, as well as other silky plays.

In a few weeks he'll be back to his best.

Think we really missed Kirke last night. A bench with Allan and Gibson seems to weak. Hopefully we can get players back from injury.

Yep player ratings. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/l ... 5096427.jp

Yep player ratings. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/l ... 5096427.jp

Quote ="rhinoms"Yep player ratings. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/l ... 5096427.jp'" Bailey only got a 7? Surely that's a mistake? He's the best prop in the world, surely it was more like a 14 or 15 out 10 performance from him?

Quote ="rhinoms"Yep player ratings. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/l ... 5096427.jp'" Bailey only got a 7? Surely that's a mistake? He's the best prop in the world, surely it was more like a 14 or 15 out 10 performance from him?

David. Before trying the school put down get your own house in order. The word you are looking for is rhetoric.

FYI my posts were in defence of players written off way too early in their career by supporters. I understand why you got so upset over it because you are in fact one of these people.

On the subject of using language to persuade, you never did apologise for your wholly unacceptable 'rhetoric' about Jane Tomlinson so dont you dare even try and lecturer me on ANYTHING.

Got it?

Harmichael ... Ku...