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| Quote ="hopie4ever"I sure the ref was getting help from upstairs later on in the game, he certainly had his finger in his ear a lot'"
That'll be to lesson the whining noises coming from the whinging poms, especially Ganson.
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"I thought it was a fair shot - what was Whatmough supposed to do - he simply ran over Burrow - no swinging arm a hit not unlike a few SBW put on a couple of Leeds players.
The pass was simply appalling - summed up Peacock's contribution tbh ie more of a hinderance than a help last night.'"
A bad pass does not technically give the defender the right to smash someone in the face, and because Burrow is smaller than most does not give the defender the right to smash him in the face. The angle from behind the tackler clearly shows him swinging his right arm - that's a "swinging arm" I believe.
I did think Burrow slipped a bit (but then you would try and duck if soemones coming to kock your head off), but how many times do you ever see a guy penalised for a high shot that knocks a player unconcious without him getting at least a yellow.
If you replace the Manly player with Adrian Morely and Robinson with Ganson and you're looking at a straight red.
I don't think there was much intent in the colission but I can't understand why the ref gave a penalty if the tackle was okay?
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| Quote ="hopie4ever"I sure the ref was getting help from upstairs later on in the game, he certainly had his finger in his ear a lot'"
Either that or he's a folk singer in his spare time.
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"I don't think there was much intent in the colission but I can't understand why the ref gave a penalty if the tackle was okay?'"
It wasn't - as some have asserted - for offside as it was given at the point where Burrow was felled rather than ten metres upfield from the play the ball...
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"but how many times do you ever see a guy penalised for a high shot that knocks a player unconcious without him getting at least a yellow.'"
Last week at Warrington for one.
Not all crippling head shots even got penalised that day by this particular 'so called' official.
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| he slipped and was falling backwards
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"Perhaps the referees, who are also there to protect a player's welfare from foul play, did their jobs a bit more too ?'"
No foul play on Sunday night. Just a big smash.
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| Quote ="John D H"Personally I think Peacock deserves a real rollocking for passing him the ball in the first place.'"
Indeed.
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| Quote ="Boris"No foul play on Sunday night. Just a big smash.'"
It would appear the ref took a different opinion. But then what would a fully trained and experienced official know eh?
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| Quote ="Glenn Morangie"It would appear the ref took a different opinion. But then what would a fully trained and experienced official know eh?'"
I dunno I suppose we could ask Dane Carlaw for his opinion..... if he's woke up yet.
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| Quote ="tvoc"I dunno I suppose we could ask Dane Carlaw for his opinion..... if he's woke up yet.'"
I'd say that's put that one to bed tvoc!
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| knee too head . same height as burrows
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"He's been knocked out more times than Mr Giles from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
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Quality geekery.
Bravo sir.
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| Quote ="fredie"knee too head . same height as burrows
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Do you ever post on this board sober?
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| Quote ="Glenn Morangie"It would appear the ref took a different opinion. But then what would a fully trained and experienced official know eh?'"
Quite. That was based on the crowd reaction. Hence no Card.
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| Quote ="Glenn Morangie"It would appear the ref took a different opinion. But then what would a fully trained and experienced official know eh?'"
The ref didnt think it was a pen otherwise he would have blown up straight away, he either listened to crowd and gave pen after burrow went off, or he was told to by upstairs.
The manly player quite clearly got him round the shoulder first contact, his arm slid up as burrow slid down.
It was a monster hit and perfectly legal, I had one almost identical last week, when player went off dazed I simply said play ball last tackle, players parents and coaches said it was high but if you listen to crowd all time then you might as well let them ref the game, just cos a player goes down and arm is near neck area doesnt mean it is.
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| Quote ="Boris"Quite. That was based on the crowd reaction. Hence no Card.'"
How simplistic.
I have a simplistic view also that Jason 'Manilow' Robinson wouldn't recognise a serious head shot even if he was on the receiving end of it.
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| Quote ="ritz"just cos a player goes down and arm is near neck area doesnt mean it is.'"
Neither does it mean that it isn't and IMO Watmough's challenge was around the players head and therefore illegal.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Neither does it mean that it isn't and IMO Watmough's challenge was around the players head and therefore illegal.'"
Don't confuse him with facts...
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| Quote ="gulfcoast_highwayman"Quality geekery.
Bravo sir.'"
From the great Lin Chung that is high praise indeed.
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| Quote ="Glenn Morangie"Don't confuse him with facts...'"
He said imo, an opinion isnt a fact, fact is it was round shoulder first before arm sliding up, referee could easily have played on, only stopped clock due to injury.
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| Quote ="ritz"He said imo, an opinion isnt a fact, fact is it was round shoulder first before arm sliding up, referee could easily have played on, only stopped clock due to injury.'"
You're correct that it is only an opinion but a sincerely held one non-the-less.
I didn't see any shoulder contact just neck and the margin for error is small eitherway, no pun intended.
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| Quote ="ritz"He said imo, an opinion isnt a fact, fact is it was round shoulder first before arm sliding up, referee could easily have played on, only stopped clock due to injury.'"
I suggest you take a look at it again.
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| According to Sky the penalty was for a high tackle. It would therefore seem to me that if that was the decision there should have been some punishment for Watmough. I think Burrow was specifically and deliberatley targetted and from Manly's point of view a job was done.
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| Seem to remember Paul Cooke nutting him a few years back (think it was 2005) when he played for Hull at Headingley
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