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| Quote ="tad rhino"biscuit bones bamford'"
Hey that`s my name for him Tad.
They would want 19 million plus Bamford for Clarke I reckon.
Also not sure about Szmodics as I don`t think he fits the way Farke has us playing.
Unless he plays Rutter out wide and Szmodics as the 10.
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| Quote ="chapylad"Hey that`s my name for him Tad.
They would want 19 million plus Bamford for Clarke I reckon.
Also not sure about Szmodics as I don`t think he fits the way Farke has us playing.
Unless he plays Rutter out wide and Szmodics as the 10.'"
Yeah Rutter would go on the right. Or interchange them at 10. We have very little depth at 10 and im not sure Aaronson is suited there either.
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| Well I know it’s only the efl cup but there’s some very worrying signs at the moment.. defensively very very poor but it’s coming from midfield too.. Rothwell only goes forward, Ampadu looks like he’s still wanting to play CB. Shape is awful. Wober…. Wow. Absolutely shocking. Looks 2 yard off the pace and uninterested.
If this doesn’t sharpen the minds of the owners in the market I don’t know what will. Farke under pressure imo if we get beat at West Brom
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| Lots of really poor individual performance, but the distance between the lines is all wrong.
We can't play Piroe and Bamford at the same time, there's absolutely no mobility between them
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| Piroe is far too ponderous on the ball. Doesn’t move it quick enough at the business end. None of the squad players did them selves any favours tonight but Rodon Ampadu Firpo etc look well off it too. Next 4 games are tough as too…. Massive games
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| Said something similar wrt to Bamford and Piroe.
No pace in either of them.
Rothwell is fine as long as he has a couple of midfielders defending.
He doesn`t fit into a 2 man midfield for me.
Aaronssen and Wober don`t bother playing them along with Bamford.
Rodon out of position so many times.
The only one with any credit was Ampadu who just got a 5/10.
6 goals conceded against 2 teams we should be beating is very worrying.
Let`s hope we put something together on Saturday and the following week against Wednesday.
2 more defeats from those two and questions need to be asked of the owners and Farke.
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| just back from the game. farke, yet again, was totally outhought by a younger manager. tactically he is clueless.
and the so called experts in the transfer dept should be sacked.
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| Brighton have triggered Rutter's 40m release clause
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| a liability at times. the only problem is we won't sign a replacement
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| Curse of orta lives on. Absolute chancer. The owners must have known though all these could be triggered this season and you would hope have contingency plans.. the lad isn’t pushing to leave by all accounts and made himself fully available last night.
The owners mettle will now be well and truly tested. They simply have to deliver. It can be done, look at Leicester last year, sold 2 or 3 of their best players and still won the league
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| thing is, virtually every footballer nowadays has a release clause. agents insist on it when they sign. it's simply a sign of the times I'm.afraid.
as you say signings need to be made asap. the moneys there.
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| Let`s hope this is not another false dawn.
I can see a number of potential recruits deciding against coming to Leeds the way we are playing.
Sounds like Leeds Rhinos.
WRT Farke my daughters partner plays football at a high level in Norwich and has played against Norwich Vets who have 2 or 3 ex Norwich players in their ranks.
They have all said he is a really good supportive manager but does lack that cutting edge tactically.
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| If you offered me the playoffs now, I'd snap your hand off. The cutting edge and extra quality you need have now gone and don't look like being replaced with anywhere near the same quality. We only have a 19 man squad - the smallest in the league.
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| This team will not finish in the top 2 unless significant signings are made.
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| What else can be said that hasnt already?
Squad is paper thin.
Players way off it - Not good enough.
Bamford & Piroe looked terrible last night, last night should be the trigger to move Bamford on and Piroe simply disappeared.
Wober & Aaronssen - were Wober & Aaronssen - way off the pace, not good enough for Leeds.
Brings x5 players on while keeper is down on the deck and bleeding - that couldve been fun.
Completely overrun in midfield and the same horrid defensifive lapses and zero pace at the back yet again cost us dearly.
Never a dull moment as a Leeds fan.
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| To be fair to Bamford he has been out for months. Aronson was ok imo. You can’t play Piroe at 10 and Rothwell in midfield.. they will get out run. Where’s the Ampadu from last season also? Same for Rodon.
Regarding the transfer business, they’re now on the back foot and other clubs will know we have loads of money.. so we are no longer in control.. Summerville replacement should have been in by now. I just don’t get the strategy. Why isn’t Kamara replacement sorted yet… crazy..
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| Bamford is nearly 31, with a horrendous injury record. He has a young family and is on 35k a week. There's no way he leaves, he wouldn't get a better deal anywhere else
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| I wonder if last night's team selection was a nod to the hierarchy regarding incomings
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| We only have 16/17 outfield players. No nod should be needed
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| 16/17 outfield players and 4 or 5 of them are nowhere near good enough and a couple more are still very young to play 20+ games a season yet which says it all about how the board have handled this.
And how Kinnear keeps his place on the Board as I`m pretty certain he would have been involved in the contract negotiations that took place whilst Orta was there.
Seems Brighton were aware that they had until Wednesday to activate the clause in Rutters contract.
Does that mean his agent has been touting his services?
Makes the sale of Archie Gray even more bizarre imo.
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| and activated it at 11.59 pm.....
I agree no nod SHOULD be needed but it obviously has to
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| Quote ="tad rhino"and activated it at 11.59 pm.....
I agree no nod SHOULD be needed but it obviously has to'"
It says on Leeds Live that Rutter knew of the offer before he took the field last night but asked to be played.
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| Quote ="chapylad"
Does that mean his agent has been touting his services?
Makes the sale of Archie Gray even more bizarre imo.'"
That's what agents do.
I'm really down and frustrated by this sale, in particular, and all the optimism I had has all but gone. But I'm not as angry about the release clauses as most. They're a normal and very common part of football, and I doubt any player would agree to sign a contract with a team in a relegation battle, or a team outside the PL without one.
I just wish they'd get a move on and sign some players.
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| I'm with you. it's not the goings it's the lack of incomings, let alone quality ones
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"That's what agents do.
I'm really down and frustrated by this sale, in particular, and all the optimism I had has all but gone. But I'm not as angry about the release clauses as most. They're a normal and very common part of football, and I doubt any player would agree to sign a contract with a team in a relegation battle, or a team outside the PL without one.
I just wish they'd get a move on and sign some players.'"
Same here mate. Im feeling very deflated about it all. I was looking forward to this season and looking forward to the games and now it’s gone. Good grief the board have some serious work to do now to bring back the feel good factor. A lot of the fan base are now utterly bemused.
The whole squad knew of the transfer apparently. I wonder if that was a factor you know. It will have damaged confidence and spirit
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