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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"Disa you are way off the mark with this one. I would rather leeds sign up all the players they require instead of just focussing on one. Scotty has been a great servant for the club, and is playing out of position. I have felt that he looked unhappy this season, but obviously not.
A great, (and unexpected) signing.'"
I expected somebody else to comment.
But in reply. My comment is more about the priorities of the club than Donald.
I would rather throw all of Donalds salary into keeping Smith. It is far better value for money, and much better prospects for us.
If they keep both, then fair enough, I accept your comments, that would be a nice situation.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Looked one of the best wingers in the competition outside Senior. Are we seeing the "real" Scott Donald in 2009?'"
I think people need to make up their mind about Senior. The wingers who play outside of him do well, getting lots of tries. People write him off after a couple of bad games.
For me, Donald is a good winger, who has an excellent try scoring record. This is helped by playing outside one of the best centres in the competition.
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| Excellent news, superb infact. perhaps a sign of things to come from "the sleeve"
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| Great news and like some of mentioned unexpected!
Many have questioned scotty's form this year me included but the bigger picture can explain his recent form dip and for me i'm glad he's staying.
As for giving all his money to retain smithy you know full well that doesn't happen at leeds disa ,smithy will be offered what GH and the current wage structure at leeds say's he's worth,i do hope he stay's and it's a case of how much he want's to be at leeds now.
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| Great news,
i'm glad Scottys staying not only cos he is a top quality winger but he can pass some expirience and knowledge down to help our younger wingers and aid their development.
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I would rather throw all of Donalds salary into keeping Smith. It is far better value for money, and much better prospects for us.
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That's probably why you don't run a rugby club.
In general I find the idea that Donald signing a contract has any influence on offers made to Lee Smith totally bizarre. Maybe we should apply it to all positions where we have more than one player; just offer the whole salary to the best one. We'd only have 12 players next season, but at least they'd be the best ones right?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Looked one of the best wingers in the competition outside Senior. Are we seeing the "real" Scott Donald in 2009?'"
well its pretty hard to play the part if dont have any lines!!
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| Quote ="DISA"Nice to see the club see the priority of re-signing an underperforming Australian, rather than put its efforts into resigning one of its most promising academy produced players..... no really.
And I expect the usual suspects who proclamin everything academy is best, to be behind this move as acceptable.
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No wonder Leeds fans are called whinos. You are one depressing individual.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"That's probably why you don't run a rugby club.
In general I find the idea that Donald signing a contract has any influence on offers made to Lee Smith totally bizarre. Maybe we should apply it to all positions where we have more than one player; just offer the whole salary to the best one. We'd only have 12 players next season, but at least they'd be the best ones right?'"
Dont get stupid with it.
Smith can cover 3 positions and very effectively. Donald can cover 1.
Smith is an international, Donald is not.
At this moment due to Smiths contract been outdated, Donald is on more money than Smith. I bet even what Smith is eventually offered, is on no more than a par with Donald. That is ridiculous.
It has already been commented and accepted that whoever is outside Senior suddently becomes a better player, with a good scoring record. Why could that person oustside him therefore not be a youngster from the academy (as we are doing now), on a much reduced salary. Why do we need to pay an Australian for that? Therefore if we did not pay the Australian we would free up that salary, and therefore be able to accomodate more players on the higher level (which is what will effect the decision on Smith).
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Smith is an international, Donald is not.
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John Wilshere is an International as well. So is Ade Gardner.
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Smith can cover 3 positions and very effectively.'"
Were you saying this in July last year?
Has smith been playing for a new deal since then?
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John Wilshere is an International as well. So is Ade Gardner.'"
And Donald is not.
Leeds salary structure works on more for an international. Hence the reason they have a problem fitting too many in on a top level.
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| Quote ="DISA"Nice to see the club see the priority of re-signing an underperforming Australian, rather than put its efforts into resigning one of its most promising academy produced players..... no really.
And I expect the usual suspects who proclamin everything academy is best, to be behind this move as acceptable.
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Only an idiot would think that because player A has agreed to a new deal it must mean the club isn't trying to retain player B. With that in mind its' a nonsensical piece of fog knitting for you to start with comparisons between him and Smith.
Oh, and congratulations on writing the lad off after a handful of games this year. Shown your true fekkwitt colours there.
Most leeds fans value and appreciate him, the club and the coaching staff clearly do so that leaves you and pokerguru in the idiots corner.
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| Quote ="DISA"Smith can cover 3 positions'" feel confident with him at centre?
Quote ="DISA"Smith is an international, Donald is not.
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what has Smith done at International level?
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| ANyone who thinks a lack of form is down to contract issues is completely clueless
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| Quote ="DISA"And Donald is not.
Leeds salary structure works on more for an international. Hence the reason they have a problem fitting too many in on a top level.'"
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| Quote ="DISA"And Donald is not.
Leeds salary structure works on more for an international. Hence the reason they have a problem fitting too many in on a top level.'"
So on your basis:
Player A can contribute over a try every other game, play a major role in bringing silverware to the club and be regarded as one of the best players in a certain position at his club. However player A was born in a country where competition for places is far, far more competetive
But then player B comes along, doesn't have the pace, experience or scoring ability of player A, but due to the lack of talent in his Country of birth, he is able to play International RL. He is therfore worth more £££.
Is that what you are saying?
If it is, then you are also contradicting yourself
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| Quote ="G1"Its' great news that the leagues best winger over the course of the past three years has re-signed with us.
Only an idiot would think that because player A has agreed to a new deal it must mean the club isn't trying to retain player B. With that in mind its' a nonsensical piece of fog knitting for you to start with comparisons between him and Smith.
Oh, and congratulations on writing the lad off after a handful of games this year. Shown your true fekkwitt colours there.
Most leeds fans value and appreciate him, the club and the coaching staff clearly do so that leaves you and pokerguru in the idiots corner.'"
And there it goes.
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"feel confident with him at centre?
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As I've said elsewhere, I think Lee Smith has all the tools to be a very good centre, and I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do in that position.
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At this moment due to Smiths contract been outdated, Donald is on more money than Smith. I bet even what Smith is eventually offered, is on no more than a par with Donald. That is ridiculous.
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Do you actually have any idea what these 2 people are paid? This time last year did you think Smith was worth more than Donald? Personally I have only ever once known how much a player was earning at Leeds, and that was only because I knew the person who brokered his mortgage (who certainly shouldn't have told me). I know from that experience that the actual figure was wildly at odds with what everybody here claimed to be the "known" salary of the player at the time. Until somebody who actually knows what the salary situation at the club is comments on it, I take all these ramblings with a bucket of salt. You still haven't explained why you think Donald's signing has any baring on Lee Smith's contrract offer.
If I didn't know better I'd think you just liked moaning.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Do you actually have any idea what these 2 people are paid? This time last year did you think Smith was worth more than Donald? Personally I have only ever once known how much a player was earning at Leeds, and that was only because I knew the person who brokered his mortgage (who certainly shouldn't have told me). I know from that experience that the actual figure was wildly at odds with what everybody here claimed to be the "known" salary of the player at the time. Until somebody who actually knows what the salary situation at the club is comments on it, I take all these ramblings with a bucket of salt. You still haven't explained why you think Donald's signing has any baring on Lee Smith's contrract offer.
If I didn't know better I'd think you just liked moaning.'"
My jobs already been done. No need for further.
But by the way, I never said it had effected Smiths contract. I only commented on what the priority should have been first. Leave the assumptions to the knee jerkers.
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| Quote ="DISA"My jobs already been done. No need for further.
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What, your intention was to make people think you've got broken biscuits in your head?
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| Quote ="DISA"My jobs already been done. No need for further.
But by the way, I never said it had effected Smiths contract. I only commented on what the priority should have been first. Leave the assumptions to the knee jerkers.
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But you dont know what was prioritised. Just speculating as usual.
Negotiations could have been running alongside, just that donald is happy with whats been offered so agreed.
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