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| Quote ="Barrie’s Glass Eye"Holroyd, Gannon, McDonnell and O’Conner would disagree. Walters, Tindall, and Johnson have also had games and in Walters and Johnson’s case are not far away every week. Sangare too is still on the young/raw side.
I think there’s stuff we can complain about atm but I think that comments unfair.'"
Tindall won't get in once Olpherts is fit and Johnson is behind Bentley in the 9 spot, bit part Tetavano is keeping Walters out and we let go of 2 x promising from academy and another is looking for opportunities away from Rl fair or not.
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| Quote ="RAPIDO"Tindall won't get in once Olpherts is fit and Johnson is behind Bentley in the 9 spot, bit part Tetavano is keeping Walters out and we let go of 2 x promising centres from academy and another is looking for opportunities away from Rl fair or not.'"
Johnson signed a new contract just after smith arrived. He’s firmly in the plans.
Tetevano is playing back row recently and Walters is being developed as a prop and was also trusted at saints. Tindall has had chances and it seems most are not convinced, but he’s made some improvement.
Assuming you’re talking about Broadbent, Hall and Edwards, ones at York so clearly not ready and played a lot in preseason so would have happily been kept, Hall was gone before Rohan and Broadbent appeared to throw his teddy out and is playing in a terrible Cas team. You also can’t keep everyone. There’s an argument we could have kept Edwards over Roberts but he’d be in the same position of not playing.
If those aren’t the players you’re talking about I will bow to your knowledge of the academy I don’t have.
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| The problem isn't the results, it's the performances. If I went into work, consistently made the same poor choices I'd be bollocked and if nothing changed I'd be out. Rohan Smith is constantly making poor choices regarding tactics and nothing changes. Effort areas are a minimum of you expect people to pay £25 plus every week
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| To be fair to Smith he seemed to be more open in admitting that we simply didn't play well at Leigh. He's mentioned the slow start thing before as well. Hopefully two weeks off will give him and the team a chance to work on some things and try to put them right.
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| After the shocking display against Leigh I'm thinking why is Sam Walters not in Smiths thoughts.I hope I'm wrong but it's looking like he may have agreed a deal elsewhere
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| Quote ="christopher"I think the international break has come at a good time for us, Wane won’t pick many if any Leeds players so it gives the players and coach a couple of weeks to regroup and refocus.
If Sezer is injured I agree it’s time for Sinfield to get a go, it’s likely both halves will be gone next year (i think Austin will go home)
I think we’ll be looking at a whole new spine next year, Ive got a feeling we’ll go for a fullback and two new halfbacks.
For once our Pack looks ok which was a priority to sort, now onto the other positions.'"
Perhaps your pack isn’t quite as good as you think, and that’s why your halves aren’t performing. Have a Listen to the in the sheds clip about the game, Leigh’s front row all did well over 100 meters not one Leeds player did. Perhaps this was down to the minutes on the pitch as ours did long minutes in comparison to yours.
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| Quote ="christopher"I think the international break has come at a good time for us, Wane won’t pick many if any Leeds players so it gives the players and coach a couple of weeks to regroup and refocus.
If Sezer is injured I agree it’s time for Sinfield to get a go, it’s likely both halves will be gone next year (i think Austin will go home)
I think we’ll be looking at a whole new spine next year, Ive got a feeling we’ll go for a fullback and two new halfbacks.
For once our Pack looks ok which was a priority to sort, now onto the other positions.'"
Agree Chris. Let’s hope so. Big two weeks for Smith now, it could shape the season
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| Quote ="glow"Perhaps your pack isn’t quite as good as you think, and that’s why your halves aren’t performing. Have a Listen to the in the sheds clip about the game, Leigh’s front row all did well over 100 meters not one Leeds player did. Perhaps this was down to the minutes on the pitch as ours did long minutes in comparison to yours.
Good luck for the rest of the season except when we visit of course.'"
The meters stats for opposition teams will always look decent, as our defensive line is passive by design.
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| I mean, the only positive is that, Wire game aside, we have played rubbish for most of the season but have never lost by more than 14 points and that was Leigh.
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| Quote ="krisleeds"I mean, the only positive is that, Wire game aside, we have played rubbish for most of the season but have never lost by more than 14 points and that was Leigh.'"
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| Quote ="Simmo71"What a terrible positive....'"
Is it though?
As awful as we have been and Wire aside no-one has done a job on us.
Of course I could be one of the Twitter doom mongers calling for Smith's head every poor game, and then being a hypocrite when we win - but a season is not won in the first 9 games (unless you are Daryl Powell)
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| Quote ="Barrie’s Glass Eye"Johnson signed a new contract just after smith arrived. He’s firmly in the plans.
Tetevano is playing back row recently and Walters is being developed as a prop and was also trusted at saints. Tindall has had chances and it seems most are not convinced, but he’s made some improvement.
Assuming you’re talking about Broadbent, Hall and Edwards, ones at York so clearly not ready and played a lot in preseason so would have happily been kept, Hall was gone before Rohan and Broadbent appeared to throw his teddy out and is playing in a terrible Cas team. You also can’t keep everyone. There’s an argument we could have kept Edwards over Roberts but he’d be in the same position of not playing.
If those aren’t the players you’re talking about I will bow to your knowledge of the academy I don’t have.'"
Walters not the only one who's pi#£d off.
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| Quote ="RAPIDO"Walters not the only one who's pi#£d off.'"
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| Quote ="Barrie’s Glass Eye"Yes I think that’s fair.
In terms of the question on which players are ‘phoning it in’ my worry would be Sezer, he’s been very much a passenger. If he’s not going to get a new contract I’d imagine that’s going to get worse.'"
He's been fairly anonymous in far too many games, I agree. If he's got a deal elsewhere for next season then his seeming lack of motivation is unprofessional, if understandable (not excusing it btw). If he hasn't got anywhere lined up but has been told he's out, then his (lack of) effort is baffling. Sinfield at 7 maybe, though perhaps RS doesn’t feel he's ready for it week in, week out. The team for Wigan may give a clue if Sezer is out.
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| i guess more than a few with some of these tactics
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| I find it quite comical a coaches plan is to concede points..
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| We have the 4th worst defence in the league. There are some really awful teams in SL at the moment, and we have the 4th worst defence. Do we need to hear anything else about the way we are defending?
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| Quote ="RAPIDO"Walters not the only one who's pi#£d off.'"
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| Quote ="YosemiteSam"He's been fairly anonymous in far too many games, I agree. If he's got a deal elsewhere for next season then his seeming lack of motivation is unprofessional, if understandable (not excusing it btw). If he hasn't got anywhere lined up but has been told he's out, then his (lack of) effort is baffling. Sinfield at 7 maybe, though perhaps RS doesn’t feel he's ready for it week in, week out. The team for Wigan may give a clue if Sezer is out.'"
Possibly.
I can’t remember exactly, but didn’t his time at Huddersfield end in the same way. Ineffectiveness followed by uninterested and finally sitting out with an ‘injury’ I fear we’re following the same pattern.
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| Quote ="Barrie’s Glass Eye"Possibly.
I can’t remember exactly, but didn’t his time at Huddersfield end in the same way. Ineffectiveness followed by uninterested and finally sitting out with an ‘injury’ I fear we’re following the same pattern.'"
Sezers a top player. Don’t worry, will get more involved as season progresses……
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| Quote ="Shabino"Sezers a top player. Don’t worry, will get more involved as season progresses……'"
We're 10 games in and he hasn't shown anything that would lead me to believe he has any interest or inclination to get involved. There's no doubting his pedigree, but his attitude and application leave a lot to be desired.
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| his attitude stinks.......
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| Most stuff has already been covered.
My main frustration is that in 2015 we would come flying out of the blocks at 100mph and rack up 2-3 tries early doors (obviously a far better side). It is like Rohan has the players meditating pre-match, they come out very chilled, no intensity, no 100mph etc. Would be nice if we came out pumped to start a match even if it doesn't always pay off.
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| Quote ="Shabino"Sezers a top player. Don’t worry, will get more involved as season progresses……'"
I think you're very much in the minority with that view Shabs
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| Think first mistake is comparing this bunch to our great sides. We’re unlikely to ever see that again. However the standard of the other big clubs is a lot lower now imho, so we could still win something if we just batten down and stay tough-as a unit (fans included).
A quality mid-season signing would be huge too…..
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