The club is aware of this. Has anyone read "the History Makers"? Got it for Xmas and whilst a little bit self congratulatory in tone it provides a fantastic insight into how the club is run, top to bottom.

You’ll be surprised that I’m a Ryan Bailey fan and defended him many a time on the virtual terrace. All I‘m doing is asking for peoples opinion. The might I mentioned is just the realm of possibility. Even I doubt Jay Pitts will over take him but someone out they must!

Yep, I did the decent thing at xmas and bought it for my dad and then proceeded to read it before he's had a chance to even pick it up.
As you say it is a bit self congratulatory but after 3 Grand Final wins in a row I can look past that, and is interesting in seeing how they're trying to generate an ethos at the club. Hetherington has to be praised for his player signings in recent years, since 99% of them seem to have fit perfectly into that strategy.

Those that are calling Bailey a 4 time GF winner miss the point that there were 16 other players helped him reach that point. I would like to see Bailey become as crucial as Peacock and gain another international cap years after his last one. His position is up for grabs unlike many of the youth squad that he grew up with. Consistency is the name of the game for Ryan.

Yes it is.

Consistently selected for every trophy winning game we have won since '04.

Still doesn't command a starting place after 6yrs. No international caps since 04. The instigator of this debate has put forward the question as to whether his place in the squad is in question. With the level of competition that we now have as opposed to previous years the question is legitimate.
We'll see who's proved right.

Well let's judge him in his last performance then???

Seems fair.

"No international caps since 04"

Really????

I command that your wrong. Also got a few caps for England after the caps he earnt in 04.

The question is legitimate. You haven't ruffled my sensibilties. Ryan Bailey - been de-valued and over looked for players who haven't even earnt more than 1 senior game for us, is frankly laughable against the multi title winner. Even if the thread is posed in 'theoretical question' medium - I would be be more selective about the questions I ask.

I like bailey i think he has played a big part in our success over the last few years, its hard to believe hes only 26 which is still relatively young, i agree though he does need to become a little more consistent, id like to see him play like he did in the grand final on a more regular basis, but with the addition of pitts and amor that competition is not only good for the team, but its good for Ryan

Irrelevant in the modern game, unless you think Lauiti'iti isn't that good either

Ask Luke Burgess, Jaimie Peacock & Matt Diskin if they see it as irrelevant and they'll give you a different answer.

Your argument is going form strength to strength.

Are you suggesting we go with only 2 props?

Are you suggesting we only play England international players?

There's no arguement pal. As I have already stated and it obviously has been absorbed by you quite yet the proof will be found by how well Bailey plays this season as opposed to the likes of Burgess et al.

So what do you think of Burgees???

Ahead of Bailey in the pecking order or behind???

Your argument loses it's impact somewhat when you can't even spell one of the lauded players names correctly.

I wonder how Jamie Peacock feels about having his name changed to the female version?

Please get a life!

He’s probably on the phone to the Samaritans right now..

Please log off and never post again.

Think that Bailey is currently ahead of Burgess, Pitts, Ambler & Amor. Like any other season it starts with a new slate and as such all players are picked on form. On form Bailey is ahead but the question was will the likes of Pitts & Burgess etc move ahead of Ryan, if a player's form is inconsistent then more consistent players will move ahead. Would I pick an out of form Ryan before an in form Burgess then I would pick the in form player.

How do you calculate Bailey is ahead on form when he hasnt played since last season whereas Burgess has?

I think Burgess had a very good 2nd half of last season, his ball retention and defence was much improved.

How true.

I'm looking forward to Rhino Bucs talking more [ish[/iit today. Please dont disappoint.

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and today you want me to post....make up your mind!!!

Your username, childish posts and lack of vocab really do point to the fact that you are the missing link.