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| Quote ="G1"Phil Clarke's increasingly inane ramblings are no barometer of anything. '"
Perhaps but on this occassion he may have had half a point. He said early in the game that if Leeds hit 50 past the Harlequins he'd walk home. Eight days earlier Harlequins had been very impressive at New Craven Park winning 10-40 and the last time the two teams met Leeds were somewhat fortunate to score a last minute try to save them from being nilled at home for the first time in SL.
I have no real issues with Clarke (despite him being a rampant St Helens fan) he and Carney are just about the most palatable amongst the Sky team.
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| How did they fare last night then?
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"How did they fare last night then?'"
Buderus was outstanding, but to be fair Diskin was also looking very good at hooker also in that 1st 25 minutes.
Hard to judge the two hooker thing though, as Harlequins looked arguably the worst side in super league history.
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| what is there to judge? the coach, you know the guy in charge who has won 2 titles in 2 years,the guy who has forgotton more than all these keyboard warriors who turn things into a p!ssing contest.
well he thinks we should play with 2 hookers and i think he knows more than anyone on here
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| Quote ="tad rhino"what is there to judge? the coach, you know the guy in charge who has won 2 titles in 2 years,the guy who has forgotton more than all these keyboard warriors who turn things into a p!ssing contest.
well he thinks we should play with 2 hookers and i think he knows more than anyone on here'"
You've done some knee jerking in your time but this takes the biscuit. It's worked once so suddenly it's this seasons fashion.
Jeez.
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| If it turns out to be that Buderus goes back to Australia my concern wouldn't be the loss of Buderus as an individual per se.
But I WOULD be concerned at the loss of a squad member - and a highly experienced squad member at that.
We need strenght in depth - I firmly believe that is why Leeds have been so successful for the past 3 seasons BUT if we suffer a run of injuries - which could conceivably happen. I would prefer to have someone of Buderus' experience to fill in roles rather than trying to blood a youngster at crucial times of the season.
I fear Leeds have some sort of hoodoo with regards to Aussie players - I can think of a number of examples where we have signed top Aussie guys only for them to be hampered by injury and not make the transition well to English rugby
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| Quote ="Blue 'n Amber"You've done some knee jerking in your time but this takes the biscuit. It's worked once so suddenly it's this seasons fashion.
Jeez.'"
why is it knee jerking? i'm happy to let the coach decide whats best, thats what i said.
i never once mentioned last nights game, or any other this season
however you twist it anyway you want,its there for all to see
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| Quote ="tad rhino"why is it knee jerking? i'm happy to let the coach decide whats best, thats what i said.
i never once mentioned last nights game, or any other this season
however you twist it anyway you want,its there for all to see'"
So we are not meant to discuss the team anymore????
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| Quote ="tad rhino"why is it knee jerking? i'm happy to let the coach decide whats best, thats what i said.
i never once mentioned last nights game, or any other this season
however you twist it anyway you want,its there for all to see'"
It's just odd that you suddenly have an opinion on it when it works once. I don't see you commenting on it all last year and up to last night when it hadn't worked.
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| Quote ="rhinosgirl"BUT if we suffer a run of injuries - which could conceivably happen. '"
It could, couldn't it.
Just wondering what you would call missing Scott Donald, Brett Delaney, Kevin Sinfield, Ian Kirke and Carl Ablett as Leeds were last night. Not to mention Leeds playing a plumber on the wing. The outside backs are struggling a bit for bodies already with Jones-Bishop gaining valuable SL experience (that he could be getting with a Champion team for the next three months at least.)
At the start of training at the Harlequins when McDermott says 'usual position lads', do they all go stand behind the posts?
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| Quote ="Blue 'n Amber"It's just odd that you suddenly have an opinion on it when it works once. I don't see you commenting on it all last year and up to last night when it hadn't worked.'"
i have given my opinion. i really rate both hookers and i think we were right to sign buderus.
up till his freak injury at wigan he was one of the form players of the comp let alone the team.
diskin is clever enough, and tough enough to play second row or at loose as he did last night at times.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"what is there to judge? the coach, you know the guy in charge who has won 2 titles in 2 years,the guy who has forgotton more than all these keyboard warriors who turn things into a p!ssing contest.
well he thinks we should play with 2 hookers and i think he knows more than anyone on here'"
Ah yes , the fella who has won 2 Grand finals and 1 WCC , I think its best to leave him to judge how the team is best served in terms of players
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| Quote ="tad rhino"what is there to judge? the coach, you know the guy in charge who has won 2 titles in 2 years,the guy who has forgotton more than all these keyboard warriors who turn things into a p!ssing contest.
well he thinks we should play with 2 hookers and i think he knows more than anyone on here'"
Not the approach you took when spilling your bile regularly at Tony Smith was it?
The worst knee jerking keyboard warrior out there back then.
Still, glad to see you may have seen some sense.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Buderus was outstanding, but to be fair Diskin was also looking very good at hooker also in that 1st 25 minutes.
Hard to judge the two hooker thing though, as Harlequins looked arguably the worst side in super league history.'"
Spot on.
Both looked very good last night. They even looked very good when on the field together.
But we must temper our outlook based upon the shambolic opposition.
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| Leeds 2009 hooking combinations/results (starting hooker + recognised hooking option on the bench)
Diskin (start) - Buderus (sub) W 3, D 0, L =#FF00005
Buderus (start) - Diskin (sub) W 5, D 0, L =#FF00001
Diskin (start) - McShane (sub) W 2, D 0, L =#FF00000
Diskin - W 9, D 0, L =#FF00002
Buderus - W 3, D 0, L =#FF00000
McShane - W 1, D 0, L =#FF00000
Jones-Buchanan - W 1, D 0, L =#FF00000
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Diskin (start) - Buderus (sub) W 2, D 0, L =#FF00001
Buderus (start) - Diskin (sub) W 1, D 0, L =#FF00002
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| Both hookers were outstanding last night, but as already mentioned we were playin pi$$ poor opposition that left acres of space around the ruck area.
Next week we have Huddersfield - a team that slow down in the ruck area a lot! It will be very interesting to see how Diskin and Buderus go on then.
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Since 2004, seasons where we have primarily gone with 2 hookers in the 17 at business end of season
2005
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silverware in these seasons = 1 WCC where only 1 was played.
Coincidence?'"
Comparing millard and dunneman...to buderus.
Yeah, nice one.
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| Quote ="back to back to back"Comparing millard and dunneman...to buderus.
Yeah, nice one.'"
If you read my previous comments, my beef has consistently been with the system rather than the players
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| silverwood v hudds that should be interesting? Sl kings of the wrestling ruck killers! very quick ptb in almost evergame this weekend!
let's see what he does!
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| Quote ="LS14 RHINO"www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leedsrhinosnews/Leeds-Rhinos-Dan39s-focused-on.6130752.jp
Buderus saying that he wants to return to the Knights and would do anything for the club but he's staying with us until the end of this season.'"
Well if he's staying lets hope he knuckles down and performs better than he has done for the last 14 months.
I've been more than patient.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"very quick ptb in almost evergame this weekend!
let's see what he does!'"
Not having a go, but how would you know that?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Not having a go, but how would you know that?'"
You can tell from 10 seconds of highlights dontcha know.
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| Quote ="Blue 'n Amber"You can tell from 10 seconds of highlights dontcha know.'"
I stand corrected then.
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