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| My friend's brother's kids (aged 9 and 7) once saw him jogging on Street Lane and ran along side him. The eldest said to him "hi Jimmy" to which he replied "f*ck off you little b*stards".
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| Quote ="Clubber_Lang"Bill Wyman started his "relationship" (whatever that may have entailed) with Mandy Smith when she was 13'"
This is true and that is where any similarity ends. Wyman was not as far as I'm aware a serial hunter of under age girls. He claims he was unaware of her age which she herself backs up, she lied.
When it was found out Wyman paid the price of the publicity. However it was clearly a relationship based on more than sex as he did marry her as soon as he could - not really the act of your average pedo.
Now again not defending Wyman who really should have known better and was far to old for her even when legal - but to compare with alleged Saville and Glitter...hardly.
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"My friend's brother's kids (aged 9 and 7) once saw him jogging on Street Lane and ran along side him. The eldest said to him "hi Jimmy" to which he replied "f*ck off you little b*stards".
True story.'"
And more than enough evidence to secure a conviction of grievous bodily harm against a minor I would have thought. Especially if you said it on TV.
My favourite part of the media coverage is the way he is now only known as "Saville" in headlines. You can hear the journos using their special, deep-toned sinister voices when they say the word.
All the stuff that's been publically recorded from the Leveson sessions, and people are still taking what they read in the press and see on TV as gospel. I despair.
Post-truth politics, post-truth justice. Great times to be alive.
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"My friend's brother's kids (aged 9 and 7) once saw him jogging on Street Lane and ran along side him. The eldest said to him "hi Jimmy" to which he replied "f*ck off you little b*stards".
True story.'"
1980 We were working in Leeds central library's doing some painting and we sent the apprentice out for our bacon sarnies for our 9.30 break.The little prat was ages coing back and our tea was cold and we were just about to get up and start work again,and he walked in.He said he had just been chatting to Jimmy Savile in the cafe,great bloke is Jimmy he said kept al the cafe entertained.
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| Quote ="G1"
Even the odious Gambaccini had no direct accusations but merely rhetoric and rumour.
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I can't remember his exact quote but him not saying anything to anyone as it might have damaged his career was a bit sickening
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| Trial by media. Nothing new here.
Innocent until proven guilty? Not in this day in age, throw enough poop until the rumour mill kicks in, then all pile in.
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| Simple question, as I haven't read all the preceeding pages.
Who in all honesty doesn't think Saville is but one of a long line of "celebrities" who thought that the normal standards of behaviour didn't apply to them?
I have no knowledge of his personal traits, and unless you were a close friend, or are a member of his family, I suspect neither does anyone on here. However, the number of people now sticking their heads above the parapet would suggest that the various Police Forces now investigating Saville's activities will be able to reach a conclusion reasonably soon.
I'd have a cheeky pound that Gary Glitter is not the only one to join to the previously sainted Jimmy to be castigated in the Court of Public Opinion, but can I find a bookie to take the bet........
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"
Who in all honesty doesn't think Saville is but one of a long line of "celebrities" who thought that the normal standards of behaviour didn't apply to them?
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I think there will be lots of squeaky bums among the showbusiness faternity at the moment, any male who has been on TV, radio or in a band that got even moderate chart success will have seen queues of young girls at dressing room doors, its a strange phenominum and probably a primal instinct that some females seem to want to attach themselves to what they perceive as success.
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| I am with JC on this one and would add that the press campaign IMHO is desigend to deflect attention from any sanctions proposed under the Leviinson report into intrusions into the private affairs of so called celebtities.
They can now cite the Savile affair as a justification for any future actions.
Shame they waited till he was dead first.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"I am with JC on this one and would add that the press campaign IMHO is desigend to deflect attention from any sanctions proposed under the Leviinson report into intrusions into the private affairs of so called celebtities.
They can now cite the Savile affair as a justification for any future actions.
Shame they waited till he was dead first.'"
THIS.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"I think there will be lots of squeaky bums among the showbusiness faternity at the moment, any male who has been on TV, radio or in a band that got even moderate chart success will have seen queues of young girls at dressing room doors, its a strange phenominum and probably a primal instinct that some females seem to want to attach themselves to what they perceive as success.'"
Maybe the girls would have been throwing themselves at the likes of Marc Bolan and other male pin-ups but I can't really see them throwing themselves at Jimmy Savile.
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| Right! So the girlfriends of the likes of Bernie Ecclestone, Peter Stringfellow...etc are there for their good looks?
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"Maybe the girls would have been throwing themselves at the likes of Marc Bolan and other male pin-ups but I can't really see them throwing themselves at Jimmy Savile.'"
You'd be surprised, and according to some of their own testimonies, some of them returned several times for more "special treatment".
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"Maybe the girls would have been throwing themselves at the likes of Marc Bolan and other male pin-ups but I can't really see them throwing themselves at Jimmy Savile.'"
Yup girls would never throw themselves at a celebrity figure...........
*cough* Shane MacGowan *cough*
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"However, the number of people now sticking their heads above the parapet would suggest that the various Police Forces now investigating Saville's activities will be able to reach a conclusion reasonably soon.
.'" And once the police have reached their conclusions will they concoct and fabricate statements as it's been alleged in two separate instances recently?
The police's conclusions are, frankly, irrelevant.
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| I've been away for a couple of weeks.
What strikes me is that, in the time I've been away, there still seems to have been very little, if any, corroboration of evidence beyond "Yeah, me too", "I always thought he was a bit odd" and "We all knew but didn't like to say".
If these cases do indeed run into the hundreds, surely we'd have seen corroborative evidence in the news by now?
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| Evidence would be nice but what sort of evidence could anybody provide for something that happened so long ago in a small locked room with nobody else present? Having said that, has anybody seen that video of him on TOTP where he is clearly groping the girl next to him and she's desperately trying to get away while he grins at the camera?
If this happened in these days of smartphones and social media there would be photos, video and recorded conversations popping up all over Twitter, Facebook, YouTube etc but in the 70's even a tape recoreder was suitcase sized and not exactly common.
I was sceptical at first but the sheer volume of complaints and reports now convinces me that it must be true, even his family believe it. Also there's a lot of talk on here about people seeking to cash in but so far I've heard nothing from anybody seeking compensation and when the question's been asked by interviewers the answer has been that any money would go to charity
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| Quote ="Harry Pinner"
I was sceptical at first but the sheer volume of complaints and reports now convinces me that it must be true, even his family believe it. Also there's a lot of talk on here about people seeking to cash in but so far I've heard nothing from anybody seeking compensation and when the question's been asked by interviewers the answer has been that any money would go to charity'"
If you noticed, even at the outset most of the statements from friends and family of his were voicing their concerns about the impact on his charitable interests, not protesting his innocence.
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| The freezing of assets by NatWest Bank today would indicate that some financial compensation is in the air, why else would solicitors get involved in such cases if there was no pot of gold to dip beaks into ?
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"The freezing of assets by NatWest Bank today would indicate that some financial compensation is in the air, why else would solicitors get involved in such cases if there was no pot of gold to dip beaks into ?'"
This is where I become sceptical
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"The freezing of assets by NatWest Bank today would indicate that some financial compensation is in the air, why else would solicitors get involved in such cases if there was no pot of gold to dip beaks into ?'"
[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1373022/Now-lawyers-police-thanks-legal-aid.htmlPot of Gold you say?[/url
And even if you do get trampled in the rush to the trough, there will always be a chum on hand to hep you out with your claim. Fill yer boots lads!
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| Is this going to end up like those PPI/compensation claim adverts they show on Dave all the time?
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| [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20174081Freddie Star now implicated[/url
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| We all knew Glitter and Starr were going to get pulled in,they were the obvious one's,but who's next?
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