Why can't you use your fingers like everyone else?

Considering his form has only ever dipped when his coach has shown lack of confidence in him, I doubt contract situations would have anything to do with it.

He has always looked a class above a lot of players. What you would call a matchwinner.

I know I am like a stuck record, but it is hardly coincidental that its only when he is dropped from the team that his form dips.

does this mean you will be applying for membership of the Feckwits club .....

Have a sit down and think about the difference between not rating a player and criticising him.

Physically sick because he was worried Atkins was going to get him more like

Nonsense. His form dips were often to blame for his coaches lacking confidence in him. His failure to grasp the full back role in 2006 being gone example and Tansey finishing that season as a much safer option.

Always? When being ousted from the 17 by jordan tansey and Ryan Hall?

Eh? If he's not in the team his form dips? How does that work?

You see, this is why I love the whino fekkwittism. A player plays well in a few and we have revisionist history. Same thing if a player plays badly.

Personally, I prefer realism. Smith is in a rich vein of form over a short, very short period of time covering this season and last. Prior to that he;s been in and out of the team for varying reasons and shown indifferent form in a few positions.

No doubting the lad had potential and that is why the club has stuck with him. Its' beginning to pay off for player and club. I hope he therefore sticks with it and doesn't have his head turned.

However, you claiming he's always been a class above simply isn't true and if he leaves, we'll get Webb fit and continue to groom BJB, or whoever is next in the production line.

So thats now 3 in a row - Man of the match awards in competitive games

Grand Final, Celtic & Wakey.

Smith is a confidence player, and when you show faith in him he repays you. I don't think he's one of these players that needs a kick up the backside by dropping him, because it just knocks his confidence. There have been times from '06-early '08 where Smith has been dropped whether he's had a good game or not.
He hit a woeful patch at Fullback in 2006, the CC semi at Odsal being one of the worst, but what young player hasn't had a dip in form upon breaking into the side.
Apart from that patch his performances have been on a consistent high standard for us, including scoring some very important tries.
It's not tism (sp?) because I've always rated him and knew that given an extended run in the side, he'd be an excellent player.
A similar situation to you with Jamie Jones G1?

I'll be frank and admit no. I didn't rate JJB at all until 2004. Smith really transformed him.

Criticising a player is the same as doubting him.

No its' not.

You have it spot on. Gareth is talking out of his botty on this subject.

Smith's dip in form came when he was a bit part to the coaches. When he was in and out of the side, and confidence not shown in him. Whenever the lad has had a string of games together he has looked a class act.

Take beginning of last season, as Gareth has brought that example up. Smith looked far superior to Ryan Hall in every facet, but the coach decided he wanted to rotate the players to test them. What happend is Smith's play started to suffer. Then you get the rhinos feckw1ttery fans coming on saying he is not up to it. Once Mclennan was forced into bringing Smith back into the fold due to lack of players and Smith got a string of games together, he finished the season better than his team mates.

This season he has been handed a starting spot with no pressure on him and he is reacting like a lot of people know he can play.

This is not temporary or a fluke. The lad has been doing it since he made his debut. The only time his form dips his when he is made a scapegoat or not backed. You would have to be seriously naive and blinkered not to see that.

As my booty knows more about rugby than you what difference does it make?

Can you explain why you think it's ok to talk like that of someoen else but if anyone dares to pick you up on your writing off of JJB you become all uppity?

Clear double standards.

Absolute utter bo!!ox

I rate Sean Long, but I criticised him for not passing to Pryce on friday night.

Your logic astounds me

I dont know. Can you explain where I became all uppity?

I admitted I was wrong, and did not use silly excuses to hide it. Its quite simple. If your wrong your wrong.

On this subject Gareth is most certainly wrong, and some how see's it has pure coincidence that Smiths form dropped has his coaches used him as a scapegoat.

What am I wrong about DISA?

We have a difference of opinion on something subjective yet you feel confident enough to proclaim me wrong. Let's face it, you don't have a great track record of credibility round these parts so if my opinion differs to you there's prima facie evidence that I am probably right.

Oh, and my opinion of Smith's ups and downs just so happened to be shared by two people very well qualified to judge him, Tony Smith and Brian McLennan.

HTH

i do feel smith is very much a 'confidence' player. he needs to feel wanted,not the type pf player to be slaughtering in the changing room.
all players are different.some need persistant encouragment, others need a rollocking.

Hang on a second, does anyone have any evidence that Smith has ever been shown anything but encouragement or is this just revisionism making up things that nobody has mentioned before in Smith's three previous seasons?

Maybe, just maybe, Tony Smith knew what he was doing when he took him out of the full back role in 2006. maybe Smith put his arm around the kid and said "re-build your game in the reserves away from the pressure of the 1st team and we'll build you back up".

Maybe a genius like DISA would've kept him in the 1st team under the glaring spotlight and pressure whilst his game went to [i[/i and the whinos fekkwitts were baying for his blood. That would've been encouraging wouldn't it.

Talking about being sick. My old man, who sits in the North Stand, said that Danny Allan was sick on the pitch a few times. I'm not surprised, he looked absolutley shattered, welcome to Super League my son!! Great defensive effort as well.

Looks like wasps will have money to spend.. www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 83,00.html

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Quote ="rhinoms"Looks like wasps will have money to spend.. www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 83,00.html'" Just wait till after the WCC

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Is it a done deal then??
When will he leave????