Unrelated but looking on Twitter some great moments at the Rob Burrow marathon today.

Well done to all involved. Fantastic to see Luke Burgess, Matt Adamson and all the others turn out to run

Tetavano been a complete waste if Money and Quota spot wouldn’t pre sign him for free.

Don’t know why people bag Donaldson, he’s not here to be a world beater he was always a dependable squad filler and he has been great value in that role, better than high value others who are not performing.

No. I’ve been consistently Smith out despite wins. The knee-jerk is being Smith in after a win. Not vice versa.

I actually find it more annoying that there is clearly some quality in this squad but they can only perform once every 3 games for 40 minutes. That's pretty concerning IMO.

Stop it.
You'll get told off for being negative thinking like that....

It’s definitely a concern and Smith needs to sort it if we are to compete for grand finals again or even to get a shot at getting there.

The optimism rose after a similar second half turnaround v catalan after and awful first half. The following week we failed to show up against KR. What will Saturday hold...

Yep, good point. Missed him.
Very likely by the looks of things.

Just wondering, now that we’ve fallen at the first hurdle in the cup this year, what are people expecting and what do you consider to be acceptable to continue with the current coaching team?

Enough consistency make top 4 while continuing to have the confidence and flair to beat anyone in a one off game.

6th is par for me. But unless we have a really poor rest of season, I think Smith stays regardless.

Given that the standard is very poor this year, we should have the squad to make the top 6.
But even though we are still in the mix, we are way too inconsistent at the moment.
And regardless of what all the 'glass half full' guys think, the knives are already out.
If we miss out on the top 6, he could potentially be in trouble.

not put in a good, solid 80 minute performance and we are halfway through may.
that's a massive concern

Why do you say the standard is very poor this year? Cas and Wakey are poor, and Hull haven't been great but on the whole there are some pretty handy teams, with everybody beating each other. Generally that's a sign of strength rather than weakness. I'd say the standard across the board is certainly better than it was in 22, 21, 20 and 19. My memory gets hazy beyond that. If you are so desperate for a sacking you'd be better off following Leeds United.

just because it's more equal doesnt make the overall standard good.
it's far from good

For me the standard had been in decline for around 10 years. Even when we did the treble, it was already sliding. Being good and being competitive aren’t the same thing, the league is becoming more competitive but the standard of play is noth8ng like what it was in the 2000-2013 era.

People have been saying 'the standard this year is poor' for as long as I can remember. It tends to be the fans of teams that are poor or inconsistent that spout it the most. Rosy retrospection is a real thing.

apart from saints the standard has been poor for a good few years now. only going to drop further imo.

What do you attribute it to?

poor youth development.
standard of overseas players dropping mainly due to aussie salary cap rising.
poor coaches.
it's a shame but how many really enjoyable, good quality games do we get a season? not a huge amount.
it used to be nearly every side had decent overseas players. good English talent. you always had poor sides but you also had entertaining games. the days of a webb, lyon etc coming over are long gone

If the true barometer of the strength of domestic competition us the international game you could argue that standards have been in perpetual decline since the mid 90's. Somebody mentioned the Bulls game from 2002 on a thread the other day. I caught it too. Great atmosphere, great game with some super players - but absolutely littered with errors that would have driven this forum into a frenzy. General standards have improved markedly since those days, but crucially the level of talent our clubs can attract from the NRL hasn't. When you were watching the likes of Trent Barrat, Lyon, Vainkola, Webb etc, you knew you were watching players of genuine world class. That's what I miss, but the rosy lens of nostalgia is conveniently blind to some up the absolute rubbish which was also served up.

Who is Rosy heard his name mentioned a few times?

Rosy Lens. Cross her palm with silver and she will tell you all.

1 win in 6 now. Little chance oft play offs. Today’s performance one of the worst I’ve ever seen. Just not good enough unacceptable to be were we are.

Taxi for smith thats enough now not good enough for a club our size his poor signings and repeatedly picking utter c*** like Olpherrts will cost him, he cannot be allowed to be here next season and recruit more dross.

I agree but do you trust hetherington to make the right decision? Time he moved over too