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| I'd Look to cash in on Watkins, who would not be missed, lets be honest.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"for me - JJB, McGuire and Delaney end of season retirements.
Walters, Ormondroyd, Mullally will never be good enough at top level so should be moved on to a Championship club which is their maximum level imo.
a few more in the 50/50 category too. Big changes needed.'"
More or less my feelings, I would however give both mullally and ormondroyd this season to prove they are good enough. I hope McGuire has sufficient intelligence to retire at this season end. He has been magnificent for us ,but unfortunately at the moment he is showing his age.
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| There wasn't one player on the pitch the other night that I'd turn a hair at losing.
If I had to pick ones to retain it'd be those that show the odd sign of wanting to improve.
I see few signs of that from the elder statesmen - understandable in a way as their best days are behind them however hard they try. The ones that really worry me are the high-earners that should be the bedrock of the team. I see few signs of wanting to improve amongst that group. Maybe they think they're good enough, I don't know. And don't give me any coaching b0ll0cks either - while poor coaching might be relevant to young players, it certainly shouldn't apply to players with 100+ games under their belts, at least not on an individual skills level.
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| It's going to take years, money and shrewd youth development to sort out the place we are in now. I don't think our next coach will see us win things, it will be the guy after him that will do it, if we get things right starting now.
Does anyone seriously expect GH to remove McDermott before the end of the season? I don't. The 40% win ratio reminds me of Gordon Brown's 5 economic tests before joining the Euro. Their sole purpose was to make sure we never entered the Euro.
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| Quote ="DHM"It's going to take years, money and shrewd youth development to sort out the place we are in now. '"
The McDermott Legacy - exactly as some predicted even when Leeds were still in the winner's circle. The success was down to a core group of players who were rapidly ageing with doubts surrounding their replacements. Nothing looked capable from within and quality external signings were a thing of the past unless coming along in the gifthorse variety.
Quote Does anyone seriously expect GH to remove McDermott before the end of the season? I don't. The 40% win ratio reminds me of Gordon Brown's 5 economic tests before joining the Euro. Their sole purpose was to make sure we never entered the Euro.'"
The 40% if true is a ridiculously low bench mark for a club the stature of Leeds.
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| This is just delaying the inevitable imo & is the usyal pr BS Hetherington rolls out after a diabolical performance/result.
Even if we win our next 4 Mc.D needs to go this next batch of jnrs need a clean slate Coaching wise & better quality 1st teamers around them.
Wrt who should go from the squad we've always had reasonable fringe players when the starting 17 or so have been quality so id start there first wrt recruitment.
Fwiw id look to move on Mcguire Delaney Galloway Jjb Burrow(player coach) & Walters. To start with.
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| Arguably it'd be easier and quicker to list those worth hanging on to.
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| If only we had, y'know a reserve league that we could put first teamers and up & comers into to hopefully sharpen up when not picked for 1st team and/or dual reg.
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| Quote ="Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino"If only we had, y'know a reserve league that we could put first teamers and up & comers into to hopefully sharpen up when not picked for 1st team and/or dual reg.'"
Now I do like that idea
It could be name either the Second Grade or if we're adventurous use letters, possibly A-Team.
That's what I'd go with.
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| Quote ="tvoc"The McDermott Legacy - exactly as some predicted even when Leeds were still in the winner's circle. The success was down to a core group of players who were rapidly ageing with doubts surrounding their replacements. Nothing looked capable from within and quality external signings were a thing of the past unless coming along in the gifthorse variety.
The 40% if true is a ridiculously low bench mark for a club the stature of Leeds.'"
I'll be honest, I was probably in the camp that thought the people managing the club knew what they were doing and had confidence in what would happen when the age of our stars became a serious problem. However, I did say several seasons ago that I thought McD was not the man to manage the transition. However, it seems I should also have included GH in that.
It's hard to predict quality of youth development, but it's been very disappointing at Leeds, particularly in key positions like 9 and in the forwards as a whole. We've also recruited poorly, I'd rather have a good Championship forward than a guy who can't get a game for Huddersfield, or a dual reg player just turning out for fitness.
I thought we had a class set of threequarters (although that was including Hardaker) and that we could surely manage to build a decent pack and recruit one genuine quality half. But no. And now the threequarters look like garbage because the pack are rubbish and there's nobody to make the links around the field to make use of them.
So here we are. Hoping the rest of the league descends to our level so our coach can achieve his massive 40% win target after 7 Championships in 11 years.
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| I vote to keep Jordan Lilley !
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| Quote ="Homer Simpson"I vote to keep Jordan Lilley !'"
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| I suspect that if Catalans hand our 'arris to us on a plate (which I suspect they will) at the weekend then the "record amount of emails" that dropped into GH's inbox this week could well be surpassed.
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| A poor performance or big loss this weekend will make the Wakefield game of paramount importance for BMD. Unless we see big improvements then Wakey will smell blood in the water and it could all be over in 2 weeks not 4...
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"For what purpose'" At least he is one that has the potential to develop into a long-term prospect
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| Least this year against Wakie we don't have Falloon to hand them the match.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Least this year against Wakie we don't have Falloon to hand them the match.'"
No but we do have 17 others that might.
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| Jordan said this in the YP - “I’ve been really enjoying my time at Bradford,” “It has been a good experience, all the boys are really good and Geoff Toovey is a really good coach who has been helping me out, Leigh Beattie as well.” - Nothing said about McD - so read into that what you will.
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| Quote ="Homer Simpson"Jordan said this in the YP - “I’ve been really enjoying my time at Bradford,” “It has been a good experience, all the boys are really good and Geoff Toovey is a really good coach who has been helping me out, Leigh Beattie as well.” - Nothing said about McD - so read into that what you will.'"
Can't read anything into it without knowing what question he was asked
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| Outs - JJB, Delaney, McGuire, Burrow, Galloway.
I would at least try and entice Myler, Widdop to the club. If the Burgesses are returning to England next season as suggested I would try and sign every one of them.
I don't see our next win coming any time soon so will interesting and testing times for GH.
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| Quote ="Homer Simpson"At least he is one that has the potential to develop into a long-term prospect'"
I think we will have to disagree on that, to me he is a rugby league journeyman he will have a long career in mainly middle to bottom super league clubs. Or top championship side. Oh hell wait a minute middle to bottom super league clubs that's us.
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"I think we will have to disagree on that, to me he is a rugby league journeyman he will have a long career in mainly middle to bottom super league clubs. Or top championship side. Oh hell wait a minute middle to bottom super league clubs that's us.'"
I think it depends who he plays next to. the kids a good organiser, kicker and directs the team well for someone so young.
play him next to a quality running half and I think he'll be fine.
either way he's the best natural half at the club right now
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| Hetherington surelyhas to be sniffing around Widdop. He's exactly the type of player that should have replaced Sinfield. Get the mothballed cheque book out Garry and get a watertight contract sorted now.
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| Quote ="ant1"Hetherington surelyhas to be sniffing around Widdop. He's exactly the type of player that should have replaced Sinfield. Get the mothballed cheque book out Garry and get a watertight contract sorted now.'"
Why do people think widdop is going anywhere next year?
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| didn't I read somewhere he wanted to come home? maybe , maybe wishful thinking
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