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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"IMO he has played well for england in the past, who would your loose be?'" If we had second row options I woulds put Ellis at LF but I don't think we can take him out of the SR.
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| The reason GB have been trying to find a ball-playing loose forward for the last 20 odd years is that they haven't had a decent ball-playing halfback in that same period. If they had a Lockyer/Thurston combination in the halves then you could use the likes of Ellis or Burgess as an extra ball carrier in the back row in the same way the Aussies have used Watmough, Johnson, Waterhouse etc in recent years.
Sadly the 13 - be it Farrell, Sculthorpe, Sinfield or O'Loughlin - is having to play as a third half back to cover the deficiencies at 6 and 7. Maybe a role there for Roby if England persist with the same structure?
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| Quote ="finglas"If we had second row options I woulds put Ellis at LF but I don't think we can take him out of the SR.'"
Wouldn't be a bad idea if we had Hock or/and JJB for the second row.
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| I thought that last week was arguably Sinfield's best game in an international.
He should be a cert for the team this weekend.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"I thought that last week was arguably Sinfield's best game in an international.
He should be a cert for the team this weekend.'"
In which role though Sam? Arguably his best contributions to the game were in the first 20 minutes of the second half when he switched into dummy half.
Do you start him in that role as GB did in 2004(?) or leave him at loose?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"The reason GB have been trying to find a ball-playing loose forward for the last 20 odd years is that they haven't had a decent ball-playing halfback in that same period. If they had a Lockyer/Thurston combination in the halves then you could use the likes of Ellis or Burgess as an extra ball carrier in the back row in the same way the Aussies have used Watmough, Johnson, Waterhouse etc in recent years.
Sadly the 13 - be it Farrell, Sculthorpe, Sinfield or O'Loughlin - is having to play as a third half back to cover the deficiencies at 6 and 7. Maybe a role there for Roby if England persist with the same structure?'"
There is also a southern hemisphere tendency to find ball playing fullbacks who can act as another pivot player, whilst we look for defensively safe support players.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"In which role though Sam? Arguably his best contributions to the game were in the first 20 minutes of the second half when he switched into dummy half.
Do you start him in that role as GB did in 2004(?) or leave him at loose?'"
Both? Spell Roby there for a period then switch them or move Burgess or Westwood to loose forward.
I thought Sinfield's passing from DH was much slicker and more accurate than Roby's last week. Hopefully Roby can up his game a bit this week.
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| I also thought Sinfield was our most creative player from 13 in the first half (not saying much granted) and in his final stint at 6 was superb.
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| Why are people wanting wholesale changes across the team and changes not only to personnel but to positions. If these players are being asked to take on different roles how is there ever going to be any continuity. You would not see the Aussies put Lockyer at DH because they lost the 2nd half of a game?. How are any of our players going to be measured/tested and be able to improve their game if they are been asked to play against the best in unfamiliar positions.
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| Quote ="Richie"There is also a southern hemisphere tendency to find ball playing fullbacks who can act as another pivot player, '"
I always thought Mathers played that role at Leeds. Before Burrow really established himself I thought that Mathers would one day move to 6 with McGuire at 7.
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| I'd play Sinfield at 6 against the Kiwis, with McGuire on the bench. I'd have Eastmond in the centre with Smith on the wing also. Personally i'd have put Wellens in the squad at FB.. but hey ho.
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| Quote ="LFCRhino"icon_mrgreen.gif'"
So quick to criticise yet not as quick to give praise.
How will he embarrass himself next?
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| Well deserved MOM he controlled the game end of
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"Well deserved MOM he controlled the game end of'"
Ban on.
Nothing else needs to be said.
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"So quick to criticise yet not as quick to give praise.
How will he embarrass himself next?'"
He could describe him as not having the "mental strength" for international RL ala jonh!!!
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"So quick to criticise yet not as quick to give praise.
How will he embarrass himself next?'"
Too many ways!!!
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| richie ramrod is a stupid Kunt and looks more stupid by the second.
quite frankly he can f*ck off.
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| Quote ="back to back to back"richie ramrod is a stupid Kunt and looks more stupid by the second.
quite frankly he can f*ck off.'"
Thats what I like to see straight to the point
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| Maybe my mistake here but have numerous Sinfield threads been removed from the usual suspects forums?
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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"Maybe my mistake here but have numerous Sinfield threads been removed from the usual suspects forums?
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I had noticed too
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| Excellent performance from Sinfield. Fully deserved his MoM.
Excellent performance from the England team across the board I thought.
Bring on the Roos!
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Hope he can put on a even better performance next week
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| If these Sinfield threads have infact been duly deleted:
Then these forums should hold their heads in shame, these are the very same forums that have been so condescending against the most successful GF captain ever, and who now clearly sees it fit to show who the best hooker in SL is, even though it's not his normal day job
On a final note Sinny asked me to pass on this message to all of you
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