I was looking for a bite

Recognise the name/era of all the top 12 but the one I know least about is Stan Smith. When did he play for Leeds?

A bit before our time.

Stan Smith was signed from Wakefield in 1930 and played for Leeds until his retirement in 1939. In all he made 261 appearances, scoring 187 tries. He played on the opposite flank to the great Eric Harris.

I guess they were the equivalent of our Smith and Atky.

that 30s side was arguably the first great era ,but they just could not win the holy grail .
the championship

Indeed before my time and I guess as you say rather like our Smith and Atky.

thx

Just a gentle nudge post the WCC match.

Danny McGuire now needs 7 points to move into 4th on the Leeds points scorer list of the SL Era and should his partner in crime play it will indeed be his 200th Appearance. Somewhat fitting if he plays as it will be in the same town as he made his full debut in Daryl Powell's first game in charge.

It's been a while but Danny McGuire has finally got the points he needed to move up to fourth on the Leeds point scoring list of the SL Era.

1 = Kevin Sinfield 2,055 Pts
2 = Iestyn Harris 1,455 Pts
3 = Rob Burrow 726 Pts
4 = Danny McGuire 614 Pts
5 = Francis Cummins 612 Pts

Brian McClennan's Leeds reached the 1,000 point barrier (33 games) in the SL Regular Rds at St Helens. The only Leeds coach to fall short of the mark was Dean Lance with 806 over his 32 SL Reg Rd games in charge.

Keith Senior now needs two tries to become the second Leeds player to pass 150 tries for the club in the SL Era. Danny McGuire tops the list at present with 153.

Jamie Peacock needs to make two more appearances to join the Leeds 100 club. When it happens he will become the 26th player to reach the mark.

cheers tvoc ive missed the old milestone groan bit.

Sorry about that, it's been a bit quiet on the obvious milestone front and I haven't had the energy or mindset to go after the more obscure.

tvoc - out of interest, how many tries did John Holmes score for Leeds? In some book I read I'm sure it said about 150, but he's not on the top try scorers list.

While ignoring my update on page 10.



I missed John Holmes in error. No escaping that fact. He was one of the players that fell between Ken Dalby's Headingley Stories and my own manual records (that are still to transfer onto computer)

John Holmes:
Headingly Story Volume 2 (1978-79) - 109
1979-80 - 4
1980-81 - 5
1981-82 - 12
1982-83 - 6
1983-84 - 12
1984-85 - 1
1986-87 - 4
1987-88 - 1

Total 154

Updated top 13 this time: (Again cobbled together so subject to alteration)

Eric Harris - 391
John Atkinson - 340
Alan Smith - 283
Drew Turnbull - 228
Les Dyl - 193
Francis Cummins - 188
Stan Smith - 187
Syd Hynes - 158
John Holmes - 154
Danny McGuire - 153
Keith Senior - 148
Garry Schofield - 147
Lewis Jones - 144

Time for the annual update I guess:

Challenge Cup - Leeds SL Era

Most Appearances: Kevin Sinfield 35

Most Starts: Francis Cummins 33, Keith Senior 33, Kevin Sinfield 33

Most Substitutes Appearances: Jamie Mathiou 15

Most Tries: Mark Calderwood 17
Most Tries By A Forward: Barrie McDermott 12

Most Goals: Iestyn Harris 90

Most Drop Goals: Kevin Sinfield 4

Most Points: Kevin Sinfield 216

The St Helens game was Leeds' 50th CC tie during the SL Era so here's a few stats off the back of that:

Leeds: Played 50, Won 37, Drawn 0, Lost 13, Pts For 1718, Pts Agst 851

SL Era CC Record:

1 - Winner
3 - Runners Up
6 - Semi Final Losers
2 - 5th Round Losers
2 - 4th Round Losers

Coaches - CC Ties:

13 - Smith 9 - Lance, Powell 8 - Bell 6 - Murray 5 - McClennan

Biggest Win (and widest margin): 2001 - Swinton 10 Leeds 106
Biggest Loss (and widest margin): 2002 - Leeds 16 St Helens 42

Back on the milestone trail.

Jamie Peacock's next game will be his 100th Appearance for Leeds and he'll become the 26th player to reach the mark during the SL Era.

[size=75Early warnings for Danny McGuire (200 in 4 - 7th player) and Keith Senior (300 in 7 - 2nd player) [/size

Ryan Bailey's next Appearance will be his 150th in the SL Regular Rounds and he'll become the 9th Leeds player to reach the mark.

You already had Sinfield on 35, so should that now be 36?

Last year's original figures are from page 7 [url=http://viewtopic.php?t=341569&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=90here[/urlabout half way down.

They were correct then. When I quoted that post I inadvertently changed a few of the figures when posting the update. I realised what I had done and tried to change tham all back but obviously I missed that one. Well spotted.

In light of Andrew Farrell's recent announcement, here is his primary claim to fame:

Top Points Scorers V Leeds (SL Era All Games):

Andrew Farrell Played 26 + 0, Tries 9, Goals 107, DG's 2 Points 252

Sean Long Played 33 + 1, Tries 7, Goals 105, DG's 2 Points 240

Paul Deacon Played 33 + 7, Tries 3, Goals 99, DG's 2 Points 212

Henry Paul Played 27 + 0, Tries 14, Goals 70, DG's 1 Points 197

The Huddersfield match was Matt Diskin's 200th start at hooker for Leeds.

Jamie Jones-Buchanan recent consecutive try-scoring run ended at four matches. The last forward to achieve that at Leeds was Ali Lauitiiti in 2004. The only other Leeds forward to manage a try in four consecutive appearances during the SL Era was Adrian Morley in 1998.

Looking forward to this week's Harlequin game:

As flagged up above it will be Danny McGuire's 200th Appearance for Leeds should he play.

He'll become the 7th Leeds player to reach the mark in the SL Era:

1 - Kevin Sinfield 316 (289 + 27)
2 - Keith Senior 296 (295 + 1)
= 3 - Francis Cummins 268 (255 + 13)
= 3 - Barrie McDermott 268 (190 + 78 )
5 - Rob Burrow 252 (180 + 72)
6 - Matt Diskin 219 (201 + 18 )
7 - Danny McGuire 199 (160 + 39)

Out of interest tvoc, where did you have Ryan Hall playing on Saturday night?

As has been mentioned, he was officially named at centre, with Gibson on the wing, but I don't think that's the way they lined up at all.

I lined them up where they played at kick-off. Ashley Gibson at right centre and Ryan Hall on the left wing.

The beauty of keeping my own unofficial records is that they can reflect actual events rather than imaginary ones as per Saturday night.

It appears that Opta haven't bought the official teamsheet line up either according to [url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2009&hp1=2918&hs2=2009&hp2=1836&stat=tries&season=2009these[/url.

What they term as 'position' changes when players are played in a different starting spot, so they also consider Hall started on the left wing and Gibson started at right centre.

Peter Smith has also ignored the teamsheet listing [url=http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leeds-rhinos-news/Leeds-Rhinos-How-they-rated.5184973.jphere[/url so it appears I may be in with the majority view on this occasion.

could sky just have ed up?

My guess on this is that Leeds filled out the teamsheet with Hall at centre, and Sky just went off that.

Do Sky ever get it wrong ???

More [url=http://www.therhinos.co.uk/rugby/110.php?section=formation&fixid=76765evidence[/urlpointing to a mis-print on the teamsheet submitted to Sky.

A while to wait but the Castleford game will be Brian McClennan's 50th in charge of Leeds at a ground he has yet to win on.

Leeds require three - two pointers to register 2000 during the SL Era in all comps.

Jamie Jones-Buchanan's next start will be his 100th in the SL Regular Rounds. He'll become the 15th Leeds player to reach the mark, the last being Gareth Ellis in his final Regular Round match for Leeds.

Two fairly unusual bench sitters at Murrayfield in Danny McGuire and Matt Diskin. The last time (prior to Sunday) that McGuire warmed the bench was 40 games ago while for Diskin it was 33 games ago. The last time they shared the bench was 117 games ago.

Keith Senior has two landmarks coming up shortly. His next appearance will be number 299 for Leeds so the Hull game at Headingley has a good chance of being number 300, where he'll become only the second player to reach the mark at Leeds during the SL Era. Assuming he starts at Castleford and at home to Hull, his following start (Les Catalans Away) will be his 300th for Leeds during the SL Era and he'll be the first player to reach that landmark for the club.

RIP

Keith Senior, it appears has three personal landmarks to reach shortly.

1 - His 300th Appearance for Leeds (next up match if he plays)

2 - His 300th Start for Leeds (the game after if he starts in both)

3 - His career 500th Appearance in five games time (this one according to Sky's commentary from Castleford last Friday.)

Senior's Totals For Leeds are:

SL Reg Rds: Pl 243 + 1, Tries 132, Points 528

SL Play Offs: Pl 19 + 0, Tries 6, Points 24

Challenge Cup: Pl 33 + 0, Tries 11, Points 44

World Club Challenge: Pl 3 + 0, Tries 1, Points 4

Total: Pl 298 + 1, Tries 150, Points 600

Senior's season by season Appearances (Tries):

1999 - 3 (0)
2000 - 35 (17)
2001 - 28 (16)
2002 - 32 + 1 (24)
2003 - 32 (12)
2004 - 30 (13)
2005 - 29 (25)
2006 - 33 (16)
2007 - 30 (7)
2008 - 34 (15)
2009 - 12 (5)

Kevin Sinfield's winning penalty at Castleford saw him top 100 points for the seventh successive season.

Sinfield's season by season Appearances (Points):

1997 - 0 + 2 (0)
1998 - 0 + 2 (4)
1999 - 9 + 12 (32)
2000 - 19 + 7 (28 )
2001 - 32 + 1 (99)
2002 - 30 + 2 (96)
2003 - 34 + 1 (273)
2004 - 31 (323)
2005 - 31 (324)
2006 - 26 (223)
2007 - 32 (305)
2008 - 34 (293)
2009 - 14 (101)

Total: Pl 292 + 27, Tries 58, Goals 925, Drop Goals 19, Points 2,101

Edit: Just placing this here so I can find it again.

Leeds SL Era Record V London/Harlequins

All Comps: All Fixtures
Played 37, Won 29, Drawn 1, Lost 7, Pts For 1248, Pts Agst 656 ..... Avg Scr (34-18 ) ..... 80%

All Comps: Away
Played 13, Won 9, Drawn 1, Lost 3, Pts For 430, Pts Agst 274 ..... Avg Scr (33-21) ..... 73%

SL Reg Rds:
Played 32, Won 24, Drawn 1, Lost 7, Pts For 1071, Pts Agst 572 ..... Avg Scr (33-18 ) ..... 77%

SL Reg Rds: Away
Played 12, Won 8, Drawn 1, Lost 3, Pts For 394, Pts Agst 248 ..... Avg Scr (33-21) ..... 71%

All Comps: At The Stoop
Played 7, Won 5, Drawn 0, Lost 2, Pts For 226, Pts Agst 143 ..... Avg Scr (32-20) ..... 71%

Leeds' Biggest Win: 64 - 6 (Headingley - 9th April 2005)
Leeds' Biggest Win Away: 0-60 (The Stoop - 25th March 2006)(Also Widest Margin)

London/Harlequin Biggest Win: 40-16 (The Stoop - 27th April 1997)(Also Widest Margin)


Rob Burrow's next start will be his 150th of the SL Regular Rounds. In doing so he'll become the 6th Leeds player to reach the mark for the club.

1 - Keith Senior 246
2 - Kevin Sinfield 240
3 - Francis Cummins 204
4 - Matt Diskin 163
5 - Barrie McDermott 154
6 - Rob Burrow 149

Burrow is the only Leeds player of the SL Era to score over 100 tries and kick more than 100 goals.

All Comps: 118 Tries, 132 Goals, 2 Drop Goals, 738 Points

SL (inc Play offs): 102 Tries, 108 Goals, 2 Drop Goals, 626 Points

He now needs four tries to complete the set

SL Reg Rds: 96 Tries, 102 Goals, 1 Drop Goals, 589 Points

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Kevin Sinfield has successfully kicked his last 16 attempts at goal.

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This one must be nearly here now. Hopefully the club will flag up this major landmark achievement.