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| Don’t normally read daily rags, but saw a copy on the Scum and daily titz scum claimed Furner nailed on. Titz said Powell who us unhappy with behind the scenes at Cas. Maybe Powell thinks he has gone as far as he can at Cas, and has unfinished business at Leeds.
But i don't like him and have good reasons.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Don’t normally read daily rags, but saw a copy on Scum and daily titz scum claimed Furner nailed on. Titz saud Powell who us unhapoy with behind the scenes at Cas. Maybe Piwell thinks he has go as far as he can at Cas, and has unfinished business at Leeds.
But i dont like him and have good reasons.
Furner out of those two.'"
Any reason you thought you'd do that post in a Hi-de-Hi accent?
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"All this talk of a coach coming in til the end of the year makes no sense to me. Surely reason we've got rid of McD now is so a new coach can have 10 games or so to assess situation as Saints did with Holbrook last year.
I personally don't want an ex-forward as coach either. We need an offensive mind who can change the brand of rugby and make us worth watching again. Do any ex-forwards who go into coaching ever play an exciting brand? I'm not so sure.
In GH we trust.'"
I agree with this in principle. However, I’m not sure GH has made a calm thought through choice and has someone lined up to come in.. if he has - fantastic. However, the tone and nature of what he has said leads me to think that Caddick has pulled the trigger here. If so we may not be able to get the right man until after the season ends.
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| Quote ="Mark Laurie"I agree with this in principle. However, I’m not sure GH has made a calm thought through choice and has someone lined up to come in.. if he has - fantastic. However, the tone and nature of what he has said leads me to think that Caddick has pulled the trigger here. If so we may not be able to get the right man until after the season ends.'"
Caddick actually doesn't have a say in that decision as far as I am aware. By say I mean pull the trigger. He can put a motion through, but I don't think his involvement is anything like it was. It is Hetheringtons decision to make, but he has been under pressure to do it for quite a long time from other directors, staff, and players, and why he renegotiatied the new deal for McDermott at end of 2016.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Any reason you thought you'd do that post in a Hi-de-Hi accent?'"
broken phone. i have corrected now.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"Brian Mac was also so successful at London, not.
He suddenly became the best ever coach at Leeds. In actual fact he coasted for many years on the back of a very successful squad built by Tony Smith. The last 3 years has seen the majority of this excellent squad leave or retire and their replacements have not been as good enough until at last this year, he has been found out. Just ask yourselves how many world class players left recently. Why is this Brian Macs fault? Poor recruitment.
FWIW Any time a club spends big off the field improving the stadia, they tend to do rubbish on the field. Happens in the boring round ball game as well.'"
One major fault in your argument is that at Leeds it is Hetherington who does the recruiting and he has starved McDemott of quality new recruits. It will be unfair on Mac if he now opens the purse strings for a new manager.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"One major fault in your argument is that at Leeds it is Hetherington who does the recruiting and he has starved McDemott of quality new recruits. It will be unfair on Mac if he now opens the purse strings for a new manager.'"
I have been told by usually reliable source, that both before the season began & when Keith Galloway departed that potential recruits had been lined up by GH, the first one being someone who would have been in the top bracket of earners.
McDermott on both occasions told GH that he was 100% happy with both the quality and depth of the squad and didn't need any additional players.
If this is the case and I no reason to doubt it then would not be unfair to Mac if the money in the purse is spent
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Caddick actually doesn't have a say in that decision as far as I am aware. By say I mean pull the trigger. He can put a motion through, but I don't think his involvement is anything like it was. It is Hetheringtons decision to make, but he has been under pressure to do it for quite a long time from other directors, staff, and players, and why he renegotiatied the new deal for McDermott at end of 2016.'"
You may well be right. If nobody is lined up (which appears to be the case) it just seems odd timing. Had they seen out either of the games v saints or Catalan I guess McD would still be there?
I think we needed a change but fine margins in many games this season.
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| Quote ="Fieldheadrhino"I have been told by usually reliable source, that both before the season began & when Keith Galloway departed that potential recruits had been lined up by GH, the first one being someone who would have been in the top bracket of earners.
McDermott on both occasions told GH that he was 100% happy with both the quality and depth of the squad and didn't need any additional players.
If this is the case and I no reason to doubt it then would not be unfair to Mac if the money in the purse is spent'"
It would depend on the quality of the recruits. I very much doubt Mac would turn down real quality.
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| seeing as Powell was coach when his former team mates like hay and Sheridan were culled I can't see him having to finish the likes of jjb or ablett a problem
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| Quote ="Fieldheadrhino"I have been told by usually reliable source, that both before the season began & when Keith Galloway departed that potential recruits had been lined up by GH, the first one being someone who would have been in the top bracket of earners.
McDermott on both occasions told GH that he was 100% happy with both the quality and depth of the squad and didn't need any additional players.
If this is the case and I no reason to doubt it then would not be unfair to Mac if the money in the purse is spent'"
This seems to be lost on a lot of leeds fans to be honest. There is is also the issue of the number of players he has shipped out that would have been an improvement on what he replaced with at times.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"It would depend on the quality of the recruits. I very much doubt Mac would turn down real quality.'"
Still can do no wrong you do remember Joe Vickery right?
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| Toovey apparently keen on the job according to Mick Gledhill.
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| Quote ="FGB"according to Mick Gledhill.'"
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| Quote ="Mark Laurie"You may well be right. If nobody is lined up (which appears to be the case) it just seems odd timing. Had they seen out either of the games v saints or Catalan I guess McD would still be there?
I think we needed a change but fine margins in many games this season.'"
The reason for no apparent plan for an immediate replacement is because it wasn't expected to be required as GH offered McD a release at the end of the season 'by mutual consent' to which McD refused to accept, effectively giving GH an ultimatum of 'back me now or sack me now'
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| It's a great decision. I was popular for a day.
2019 season tickets on sale soon folks.
Believe in the Sleeve.
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| It doesn't stack up to me that the coach has no say in the signings Leeds make. I'm certain it would be a joint thing between GH and his coach.
Every time we made a signing McD used to say he had spoken with the player on the phone over a period of time. So to say he had no involvement can't possibly be true.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"It doesn't stack up to me that the coach has no say in the signings Leeds make. I'm certain it would be a joint thing between GH and his coach.
Every time we made a signing McD used to say he had spoken with the player on the phone over a period of time. So to say he had no involvement can't possibly be true.'"
McDermott was clear at the time on his role in signing Keinhorst, Walters, Sutcliffe, Hauraki, Griffin, Ormondroyd, Moore, Yates, Vickery, and Achurch. So I would say he has had a fair amount of involvement.
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| Right decision,wrong time. Should have left it until the end of season. I gather Brian is angry and bitter, understandably so.
Maybe if he gets chance to explain his side of things we may be able to assess the situation. Could be he has identified players to sign and GH has refused due to lack of funds. As always two sides to a story, although the teams performance at Wigan with a relatively strong team was dire. Without doubt that would be the straw that broke the camels back. Wouldn’t have Powell back nor any other British coach at the moment. Smith would be a good temporary stand ,in he also could help in advising on a new coach. Certainly the whole playing squad could do with a shake up , both tactically and mentally.
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| Alternatively GH may have told BMD that there would be a parting of the ways at the end of the season and BMD replied with back me or sack me so GH had no choice...
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"Right decision,wrong time. Should have left it until the end of season.'"
Ideally yes but that may have been put to BM and he declined. Also if GH had left it to the end of the season without saying anything and then pulled the trigger BM would still have felt aggrieved feeling that he could have turned the corner the following season. It's clear he was never going to walk on his own terms, he had to be pushed and that is never nice however you try and dress it up sadly, and no matter how well you do in the past, it's not a job for life 8 seasons is an amazing run at a club like ours, unlikely to be matched anytime soon.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"McDermott was clear at the time on his role in signing Keinhorst, Walters, Sutcliffe, Hauraki, Griffin, Ormondroyd, Moore, Yates, Vickery, and Achurch. So I would say he has had a fair amount of involvement.'" Did he have the same role in the signings of Briscoe, Moon, Garbutt, Parcell , Cuthbertson and Myler?
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"Did he have the same role in the signings of Briscoe, Moon, Garbutt, Parcell , Cuthbertson and Myler?'"
No, of course not. Silly.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"So now that the dust is settling a bit, who do people actually want and why?
I'd like to see Powell because he has a track record of bringing through younger players and developing them and his teams play an exciting brand of rugby.'"
I have said it for the last 2/3 seasons, Darryl Powell will be the next Leeds coach. Granted, I believed it would be because Brian Mc would be the next England coach
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| Quote ="Gotcha"McDermott was clear at the time on his role in signing Keinhorst, Walters, Sutcliffe, Hauraki, Griffin, Ormondroyd, Moore, Yates, Vickery, and Achurch. So I would say he has had a fair amount of involvement.'"
That's like looking at the Leeds A team from 1983.
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