There’s a very small part of me that wants this game to blow out to force change.

Same.
Something hs to change. Preferably a lot

Utter shambles. They've a long way to come back this year from this start.

Hull with no halves smashing it in thru their forwards and then giving it to Connor. Who'd have thought?

Not Rich Agar evidently.

Its sad when its come to this, hopefully it does not take another bad loss at Salford before we pull the trigger.

I dont think Agar has any answers to this. There's so much that's wrong where do you start. It's all started with his typically desperate play of throwing Dwyer on after 20 he's clearly no confidence in the team.

But but but Austin and Seizer played semi okay rugby together 4 years ago, I thought that meant they were going to be great.

Has there been a worse defensive half back pairing at a big club ?

I’ve been supportive of Agar and think he’s done a good job under the circumstances. However, this season is a step too far, we need change. It’s too late now.

There’s bigger things to worry about though. The apathy and discontent towards the RFL is as bad as I’ve known. The games needs an overhaul, immediately.

This is exactly it, I’m certain Agar knows what is going wrong, it I’m equally certain that he has no idea how to fix it.

We can either change the coach now, at least relieve him of his duties and move him to DOR if that’s the plan at season end, try to get someone in and change things with enough of the season left, or we can hobble through this season and change at the end of it.

I’d prefer the former, always better to make things happen than wait for them to.

@christopher this is why I highlighted the negatives after last week's second half, because it doesn't take a genius to figure out how these performances are going.

I called for Agar's head a couple of weeks ago and was laughed at.

This really is a tactical embarrassment.
I rarely agree with coaches being given the boot so early in a season, but I'm not sure Agar can survive this.
And Sean Long is stealing a living.
But what else is there - Chev Walker??!?!?
Big, big changes needed.
I'm really not sure I would keep ANY of the overseas players.
Other than Prior, who is 34 and flogged to death every week, the rest are bringing very little.
Did Johnson play more than 10 minutes? Ridiculous, desperate tactics
I very rarely do this, but 60 minutes in and I honestly can't watch any more...

Not much to say other than this is unacceptable

That's as bad if not worse than anything served up Furner.

Agar out

Only reason I'm still watching is to see what he's got to say..

Likewise, obviously, we will be desperate, and work hard this week and give our all next week (when we will also be e).

Don't forget the effort areas that were off

Briscoe…

Briscoe first try for 13 games. A winger who has not scored for z13 games, says alot.

At 0-0 Agar too CJ off ? What did he do wrong ??

He let them break down the middle, and poof just like that the trust was gone.

Poor from Agar that. Pretty fickle with who he wants to make an example of

Put your note pad away Agar it's not got enough pages.

Is he writing his resignation?

I feel for Johnson but can understand the switch, Deyer usually at least brings some energy and we had none, but Deyer like the rest of the team was utterly dire.

I can take losing, if we try, tonight was an utter embarrassment to the club though