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| Quote ="Snake Eater"I don't think anyones writing him off bar LS16 but it seems smith should be the winger next week.'"
I dont disagree I think the Semi would be asking a bit too much of Hall ATM.
My previous post was directed at LS16
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"IMHO I don’t think Hall has the skill set to play at top SL level.
'" I could be wrong but I'm sure I read that Hall has only been playing RL for a few years.
I think it's a little premature to be writing a 20 year old Leeds player's chances off.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Only because you've never seen that much money all in one place at the same time.
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I am reliably informed by many of your Lost Chompers peer group that the size of your taped-up wads of cash is extremely impressive Shag. They say that's because you never spend any of your own money but prefer to bludge off others instead
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| Quote ="A P"I am reliably informed by many of your Lost Chompers peer group that the size of your taped-up wads of cash is extremely impressive Shag. They say that's because you never spend any of your own money but prefer to bludge off others instead
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You would be proud of me.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"I could be wrong but I'm sure I read that Hall has only been playing RL for a few years.
I think it's a little premature to be writing a 20 year old Leeds player's chances off.'"
correct, ryan has only been playing since he was 13/14
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"You would be proud of me.
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Didnt you go to Wembley with Gareth and co last year?
Did you bludge anything of Invincible that weekend?
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| I don’t fully understand why so many people are getting sentimental about Hall?
Could it be because he is a product of our ‘never failing’ Academy system or that he is a ‘really nice’ young lad?
How much of a chance does he need and at what price do we give him that chance? Giving him week in – week out first team experience has already cost us and, as seen yesterday, opposition teams target him as our weak link.
He’s not a bad player by any stretch of the imagination just IMO he’s just not good enough to be playing for a ‘top’ SL team.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"I don’t fully understand why so many people are getting sentimental about Hall?
Could it be because he is a product of our ‘never failing’ Academy system or that he is a ‘really nice’ young lad?
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ryan hall is NOT a product of the leeds academy. in 2006 he was still playing in oulton raider's first team and was only signed during that season by leeds, he was not signed from school or for the foundation he played a few under 18's games then was thrust into the under 21's and got into the first team sqaud i think personally that is all he is - a squad player
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| Quote ="totalloiner"ryan hall is NOT a product of the leeds academy. in 2006 he was still playing in oulton raider's first team and was only signed during that season by leeds, he was not signed from school or for the foundation he played a few under 18's games then was thrust into the under 21's and got into the first team sqaud i think personally that is all he is - a squad player'"
I stand corrected.
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| Scott Donald all over again......
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| Quote ="Lawrie"Scott Donald all over again......'"
time will tell. i hope your right.
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| Quote ="Lawrie"Scott Donald all over again......'"
Ahrr… all becomes clear
Folk won’t now criticise a player again after getting their fingers burnt by saying Donald was sh[size=100i[/sizet.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"Ahrr… all becomes clear
Folk won’t now criticise a player again after getting their fingers burnt by saying Donald was sh[size=100i[/sizet.'"
The same people who critise him will be wanting to sleep with him if he gets a hat trick on Saturday
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| Quote ="Lawrie"The same people who critise him will be wanting to sleep with him if he gets a hat trick on Saturday'"
Well obviously… never said I wasn’t fickle.
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| He's not the first back to give away a try because he couldn't see the ball in the sun now is he?
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| Quote ="Lawrie"Scott Donald all over again......'"
yup.
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| Quote ="loinertillidie"He's not the first back to give away a try because he couldn't see the ball in the sun now is he?'"
It’s not just the Catalan game, I always think we look a little vulnerable on the right when he’s on the wing, maybe not so much now that Toops is back though.
There were a couple occasions when Hall looked as if he’d suddenly realised that he was out of position and moved further wide. On both occasions the Frenchies where attacking down the middle but emphasised how easily he tends to drift in.
Am I really the only person on this board who thinks that Hall has had enough chance to prove himself and is just a little lacking?
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| Quote ="loinertillidie"He's not the first back to give away a try because he couldn't see the ball in the sun now is he?'"
Technique execution was poor on the first occasion. Elbows in ..eyes on the ball.. fingers hand outstreched....is the golden rule.
lack of concentration the cause of the second error.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"
Am I really the only person on this board who thinks that Hall has had enough chance to prove himself and is just a little lacking?'"
He only made his first team debut last season.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"Ahrr… all becomes clear
Folk won’t now criticise a player again after getting their fingers burnt by saying Donald was sh[size=100i[/sizet.'"
Possibly so, but all this chopping and changing of hall/smith has not really helped either to settle him into the role.
Hall is a cracking player and with the right exposure to the game can be a great boon to Leeds, this will lead to some muffed passes and mistakes sure but thats part and parcell of the game surley?.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"It’s not just the Catalan game, I always think we look a little vulnerable on the right when he’s on the wing, maybe not so much now that Toops is back though.
There were a couple occasions when Hall looked as if he’d suddenly realised that he was out of position and moved further wide. On both occasions the Frenchies where attacking down the middle but emphasised how easily he tends to drift in.
Am I really the only person on this board who thinks that Hall has had enough chance to prove himself and is just a little lacking?'"
Interesting you dont comment on Donald being well out of position for the Saints try on his wing...
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"It’s not just the Catalan game, I always think we look a little vulnerable on the right when he’s on the wing, maybe not so much now that Toops is back though.
There were a couple occasions when Hall looked as if he’d suddenly realised that he was out of position and moved further wide. On both occasions the Frenchies where attacking down the middle but emphasised how easily he tends to drift in.
Am I really the only person on this board who thinks that Hall has had enough chance to prove himself and is just a little lacking?'"
I agree that smith should start next week but i wouldn't write hall off yet.
He just needs to regain confidence and as you've already noted toopi has only just come back and our right hand side has been makeshift more or less all year so that has been a major factor to consider aswell.
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| Quote ="jimmy-saki"Possibly so, but all this chopping and changing of hall/smith has not really helped either to settle him into the role.
Hall is a cracking player and with the right exposure to the game can be a great boon to Leeds, this will lead to some muffed passes and mistakes sure but thats part and parcell of the game surley?.'"
IMO (and that’s all it is – an opinion) we have a more versatile and reliable player in Smith.
Now I know he was tempestuous and had his faults but he seems to have worked through that now and maybe Hall will do the same but at what price?
Do we really need to give him first team run outs in important games just to hone his skills when we already have a better option?
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| Hall also contributed 8 points on Saturday
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| Quote ="rhinoms"I agree that smith should start next week but i wouldn't write hall off yet.
He just needs to regain confidence and as you've already noted toopi has only just come back and our right hand side has been makeshift more or less all year so that has been a major factor to consider aswell.'"
I would agree with you there.
I also think Smith should start outside Toopi this week mainly due to the fact he has more experience of these games.
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