I thought McGuire was past it in 2011? or again in 2014?
Its funny how none of his detractors from previous years made any noise last year


He is injured and if he recovers will be back to some good form next year

That's an embarrassing post, even by your own incredibly low standards.

Just because some players are past their best, heading for retirement and others have struggled with injury all season, doesn't mean they were never any good.
Seriously what goes on in that brain of yours, i'm sorry but you're an absolute moron. If you're not making stuff up then you're posting ridiculous claims about RL legends never really being any good.

They do it every year, just like they write the club off ever year.
They had to be right eventually, bless 'em

McGuire has been awful., and even more injury prone than usual, this year. he's been a magnificent player but the time to call it a day is rapidly coming along. imo he will be even worse next year.

If he (and the team) does return to form next year (which I think is possible) then you know they'll trot out the line that "it's indicative of the falling standards of SL" and that "we haven't improved, the other teams have all just gotten poorer"

I can't see it. we look so ordinary its shocking. a top half back will help a lot but we simply have too many players nearing the end of their time. we maight still have the best back 5 in the league, and I think we do, but we are giving them no ammunition. the half backs, sadly, are finished.

That post could've pretty much been copied and pasted from October 2014.

but it's not. and having watched, sadly, most games this year then anyone who thinks changes aren't needed are deluded. we've had a brilliant run but time catches up with everybody. this side, if changes aren't made, will struggle again next year

Well we'll see.

You need some reading lessons I think - where did I ever say these players were no good? That's just a figment of your delusional imagination.

What I said was that having a great captain on the field and a tough culture setter of the field gave these players a platform on which some of them and I never mentioned any names yet another figment of the void between your ears - looked better than the actually are. Take that comfort blanket away and some look very exposed.

Danny McGuire does not fall into that category - so do not misquote me again

Really - go on show us your superior knowledge on why it wasn't a blip



I cannot wait for you to blinded with your opinions

Printer - do you honestly think this squad as it is good enough to challenge for honours next season?

I take the point about the pre-season but to me the squad lacks a depth of quality and lack of youngsters coming through to be a top 4 side?

Yes they have been written off before but in the past they always had their two most senior players.

Yes I do think they'll be pushing for top 4 next season.

*if Segeyaro stays

Don't know where you get your rubbish from sometimes. Do you deliberately seek attention? 7 wins from 8 including Hull and Wigan shows us where we are. We are the form team. Get Ward back and a creative halfback and we'll be fine.

Beating Hudds, Hull and Saints on the way to winning the Challenge Cup (for the 2nd year running) by a record scoreline, backed up by winning the league after playing some of the best RL we've seen in years, swiftly followed by beating Saints in the semi and Wigan in the GF isn't a blip.

Anyone that can put that kind of achievement down as "a blip" is a total moron although you've proved yourself to be one of those on many occasions so...

So what did you mean by......



followed up by this.....



And if I do "misquote" you again (not that I did), what will you do?
Make something up then hurl abuse at me for days on end before doing a runner and going into hiding for a week when you get found out? ......again.

Im not sure we need a creative halfback, I think McGuire Sutcliffe Segyaro (if he stays) Burrow and our outside backs have a lot of points in them.

What we are missing is a 'little general' type half of the Adam Reynolds mould, who has a good kicking game and will give us some better shape and organise the team in a way that our more creative players get more opportunities.

Lilly could be a long term option in this role, but he needs a few more years to hone his skills, either in a reserve team or on loan.

Dear me, you do realise we have played Featherstone and Hull KR twice in those seven? Wakefield put sixty past Wigan, and Cas comfortably best Hull just last week. If we were playing in the top eights now, we would lose each week.

People don't seem to understand the difference in what Leeds do and what other clubs do. The change around in Leeds in the league this year is that Leeds went massively backwards in strength, whereas the competition strengthened. Those same teams will strengthen again, If Leeds don't surely people are not really that silly that they can not see the outcome?

The original post of a halfback, would have been correct a year ago. Now though we are also short in many other areas because of age and body condition. And still the major decision to be made, which in its self would be an improvement, has still not been announced.

whether or not macdermott stays? yes that's a key decision

Great to see Leeds dominating again.

Can they go unbeaten in this league?

If Delaney can get back to his best and string a match together I don't see why not

...

The key decision is what happens with Hardaker. If he stays/returns then firstly it alters the style of attack as he's different to Sutcliffe there.

It then has a knock on effect on halfbacks, which then has a potential knock on effect of who plays as a backup hooker and also potentially if we can send Lilley out on loan to get some more game time and experience.

Poor bloke, his body has been broken for at least the past two seasons (not including this one).

If anyone deserves a testimonial, he does. Unfortunately, he won't qualify.