I heard yesterday we're at least £135K UNDER the cap ... How true that is, I don't know.

As I've said elsewhere, the minute the Eastwood deal went sour we should be been back to Australia to get a replacement.

If he made the England squad they could pay him in training gear.

If he goes to Carnegie, He'll want more up market clients buying his junk...he'll start selling on Amazon.

If rhinoms thinks we are ok then thats good enough for me!!

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You are joking right, Richie you usually make some valid points but on this thread something has gone wrong!!

Gareth have you hacked Richie's account?

Just say that Eastwood is on £100k that leaves space for next season of £35k, subject to those OOC being re-signed/replaced at the same price. What player could we get for that, given that Eastwood at present is coming over next year. Alternatively who could we sign for the rest of this season only.

The Eastwood deal is obviously causing major problems for this season, whether the club was right to persist with it only time will tell.

Which bit do you disagree with? Are you in the Wellens fan club?

I would take Gildley over Senior.
I would take Gilmour over Gibson/Ablett/Watkins.
I would take Gardner over Hall.

Add to that, I would take:

Pryce over McGuire.
Long over Burrow.

And if we are including 9's Cunningham/Roby over Diskin/Buderus.

if you want me on the forwards let me know because thats where they have really run over us this season and Leeds have been very poor.

Another one who hasn't read posts correctly!!!

You've got them all the wrong side. Did you have a reason to do that?
Why didn't you just respond to the player for player comparison I'd put up before?

Must have been some kind of miracle that had our depleted back line over run theirs in the Grand Final.

Change them around then, its still the same outcome Richie.

Gilmour is a player I would have loved to see at Leeds, possibly the most criminally underrated player in SL.

That couldn't of happened because this is the worse squad in our history and if we don't open the cheque book and sign,sign,sign our club is doomed and bluey and GH will be remebered for destroying us!

Yes, you are referring to the side that Tony Smith built, what has this new coach added to the equation?

Have Leeds gone dramatically backwards this season or not, I know you can't see past the blinkers but come on, even you aren't that daft!!

I don't have blinker's just belief in a squad that's brought success,a coach that's won at the highest level plus been the only coach to ever win a WCC and a SL title in the same season.
Oh but no i forgot the player's totally ignored him and played how TS wanted them to play!!


We are missing ellis no doubt but is that GH or Bluey's fault??
Many have asked who is available and at what price??
We are playing pant's at the moment no-doubt about it and they are very low on confidence and with that comes disjointed structure's and mis-timed pass's and defeats.
We will see how good this squad is come october and then and only then will we know fully if it's been a bad season or not.
New signing's don't always work or have an immediate impact FFS people are writing off a squad that contains the like's of Webb,Senior,Donald,Peacock,Sinfield,Mcguire,Burrow,Ali etc etc these are the same player's that have won the lot.
Are they all past it???
Are we the worst team in the league??
Or maybe just maybe we've had a dip in form and if you'd read the coach's comments pre-season you'd known that this has been a completely different build up to the season ahead with the world cup and injuries etc.

he improved on 2007. a team should look to improve on the year before. smith improved on 2003 in his first season.
smith was garbage in 2006. these things happen in sport

That point you keep making really makes me laugh it's soooo ridiculous..

well said.

Why do you think it's ridiculous by the way? Both have played most (or even all?) of their time on the right wing this season.

He's not that underrated if you rate him ahead of SL's top try scorer and England's first choice centre over the last decade.

AND ?????????? IT DOESN'T MATTER WHICH SIDE OF THE FIELD THEY ARE CURRENTLY PLAYING ON. I'VE SWAPPED A WINGER FOR A WINGER AND A CENTRE FOR A CENTRE....

Caps

Are you going to type "FACT" after the end of your next piece


Of course it matters which side they play.

Donald has played most his career so far at Leeds on the left wing. He is currently playing on the right to try and balance the inexperience of the backline.. so it doesn't matter which side either player is currently playing.

Your question was, who would you take out of the backline at Saints in place of what we have at Leeds. I said Gidley or Gilmour for Gibson, then Gardener for Hall. There would be no theoretical problem with that swap at all. If you want you could put Donald back on the left wing where has has spent most of his time since joining Leeds and put Gardner on the right.....

Any argument to the contrary is totally and utterly ridculous and stupid.

There may be a small issue over salary cap. Whilst I am aware we are not using our full cap at present replacing Gibson and Hall with Gidley and Gardner would IMO not be good utilisation of the salary cap.

Yep your right. That wasn't the original point of this though. It's only in theory.

Not really - you are talking about comparing like for like players and you take Saints best winger and centre and compare with Leeds "cheap" winger and centre. Yours is more fantasy than theory. Theory is based on trying to achieve a goal within given constraints, fantasy is what a few posters try to put post on here to rationalise their criticisms.